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On 03/30/10 07:30, Shaun Hennessy wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:4BB20B1C.4020608@alcatel-lucent.com" type="cite">
<tt>A couple of question related to the GC logs and promotion failure
messages<br>
<br>
I am running 6u17.<br>
<br>
rgv[2]: -server<br>
argv[3]: -Xms14000m<br>
argv[4]: -Xmx14000m<br>
argv[5]: -XX:PermSize=800m<br>
argv[6]: -XX:NewSize=5600m<br>
argv[7]: -XX:MaxNewSize=5600m<br>
argv[8]: -XX:MaxPermSize=800m<br>
argv[9]: -XX:+DisableExplicitGC<br>
argv[10]: -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC<br>
argv[11]: -XX:+UseParNewGC<br>
argv[12]: -XX:+UseCMSCompactAtFullCollection<br>
argv[13]: -XX:+CMSClassUnloadingEnabled<br>
argv[28]: -verbose:gc<br>
argv[29]: -XX:+PrintGCDetails<br>
argv[30]: -XX:+PrintGCDateStamps<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
4112.744: [GC 4112.744: [ParNew: 4940531K->530787K(5017600K),
0.1455641 secs] 11878708K->7540012K(13619200K), 0.1457559 secs]
[Times: user=1.38 sys=0.02, real=0.15 secs]<br>
4113.780: [GC 4113.780: [ParNew: 4831587K->372801K(5017600K),
0.2093305 secs] 11840812K->7551390K(13619200K), 0.2095270 secs]
[Times: user=1.34 sys=0.07, real=0.21 secs]<br>
[Times: user=0.10 sys=0.00, real=0.11 secs]<br>
2010-03-24T16:31:56.490-0400: 4114.097: [CMS-concurrent-mark-start]<br>
4115.261: [GC 4115.261: [ParNew: 4674075K->364108K(5017600K),
0.0755017 secs] 11852663K->7542736K(13619200K), 0.0756880 secs]
[Times: user=0.93 sys=0.00, real=0.08 secs]<br>
4115.338: [GC 4115.338: [ParNew: 420064K->323310K(5017600K),
0.1112115 secs] 7598693K->7587370K(13619200K), 0.1113667 secs]
[Times: user=0.98 sys=0.02, real=0.11 secs]<br>
2010-03-24T16:31:58.647-0400: 4116.254: [CMS-concurrent-mark:
1.909/2.157 secs] [Times: user=31.47 sys=1.55, real=2.16 secs]<br>
2010-03-24T16:31:58.647-0400: 4116.254: [CMS-concurrent-preclean-start]<br>
2010-03-24T16:31:58.798-0400: 4116.405: [CMS-concurrent-preclean:
0.149/0.151 secs] [Times: user=2.29 sys=0.12, real=0.15 secs]<br>
2010-03-24T16:31:58.799-0400: 4116.406:
[CMS-concurrent-abortable-preclean-start]<br>
4116.460: [GC 4116.460: [ParNew: 4624110K->301464K(5017600K),
0.0914784 secs] 11888170K->7617401K(13619200K), 0.0916679 secs]
[Times: user=0.89 sys=0.03, real=0.09 secs]<br>
<b>2010-03-24T16:31:59.494-0400: 4117.101:
[CMS-concurrent-abortable-preclean: 0.596/0.695 secs] [Times: user=9.88
sys=0.60, real=0.70 secs]<br>
[YG occupancy: 2756990 K (5017600 K)]4117.102: [Rescan (parallel) ,
0.4648394 secs]4117.567: [weak refs processing, 0.0028851
secs]4117.570: [class unloading, 0.0240174 secs]4117.594: [scrub symbol
& string tables, 0.0898531 secs] [Times: user=1.72 sys=0.37,
real=0.58 secs]</b><br>
2010-03-24T16:32:00.079-0400: 4117.686: [CMS-concurrent-sweep-start]<br>
4118.116: [GC 4118.116: [ParNew: 4602264K->305089K(5017600K),
0.0712571 secs] 11891816K->7620802K(13619200K), 0.0714474 secs]
[Times: user=0.75 sys=0.00, real=0.07 secs]<br>
4119.117: [GC 4119.117: [ParNew: 4605889K->263281K(5017600K),
0.0842051 secs] 11665429K->7368947K(13619200K), 0.0843955 secs]
[Times: user=0.79 sys=0.01, real=0.08 secs]<br>
4125.941: [GC 4125.941: [ParNew: 4936868K->708251K(5017600K),
0.1426036 secs] 9789305K->5612975K(13619200K), 0.1427944 secs]
[Times: user=1.56 sys=0.01, real=0.14 secs]<br>
4126.893: [GC 4126.894: [ParNew: 5009051K->485783K(5017600K),
0.2210054 secs] 9536611K->5247528K(13619200K), 0.2211964 secs]
[Times: user=1.58 sys=0.04, real=0.22 secs]<br>
4128.102: [GC 4128.102: [ParNew: 4786583K->455386K(5017600K),
0.0748814 secs] 8588693K->4257495K(13619200K), 0.0750694 secs]
[Times: user=0.94 sys=0.00, real=0.08 secs]<br>
2010-03-24T16:32:11.951-0400: 4129.558: [CMS-concurrent-sweep:
10.777/11.872 secs] [Times: user=149.77 sys=7.25, real=11.87 secs]<br>
2010-03-24T16:32:11.951-0400: 4129.558: [CMS-concurrent-reset-start]<br>
2010-03-24T16:32:11.984-0400: 4129.591: [CMS-concurrent-reset:
0.033/0.033 secs] [Times: user=0.04 sys=0.00, real=0.03 secs] 4140.537:
[GC 4140.537: [ParNew: 4756186K->539705K(5017600K), 0.0873384 secs]
6572247K->2355767K(13619200K), 0.0875281 secs] [Times: user=1.10
sys=0.00, re<br>
al=0.09 secs]<br>
<br>
<br>
1) I no longer seem to get any "</tt><code class="jive-code jive-java">CMS-initial-mark"
- is this a change since 6u12?<br>
</code></blockquote>
<br>
I'm running <br>
<br>
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_17-b04)<br>
Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 14.3-b01, mixed mode)<br>
<br>
and I see entries such as<br>
<br>
0.869: [GC [1 CMS-initial-mark: 22901K(229376K)] 28264K(258880K),
0.0561592 secs] [Times: user=0.05 sys=0.01, real=0.06 secs]<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:4BB20B1C.4020608@alcatel-lucent.com" type="cite"><code class="jive-code jive-java">2) The rescan portion than is the only
non-concurrent correct? So from
the above the application was only STW for 0.58 sec.<br>
</code></blockquote>
<br>
The initial-mark is also STW.<br>
<br>
The rescan is part of the remark which is STW. From my run<br>
<br>
1.270: [GC[YG occupancy: 15860 K (29504 K)]1.270: [Rescan (parallel) ,
0.1002467 secs]1.370: [weak refs processing, 0.0000167 secs] [1
CMS-remark: 22901K(229376K)] 38761K(258880K), 0.1004598 secs] [Times:
user=0.11 sys=0.03, real=0.10 secs]<br>
<br>
<br>
In your entry yes it is .058 sec.<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:4BB20B1C.4020608@alcatel-lucent.com" type="cite"><code class="jive-code jive-java">3) This may have been a chance from 1.5 to
1.6, but this line also used
to display a CMS-remark did it not?</code><br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Yes, see my example above.<div><br>
<blockquote cite="mid:4BB20B1C.4020608@alcatel-lucent.com" type="cite"><code class="jive-code jive-java">4) Is there a way to have my minor
collections also display the full date stamp (ie </code><tt>2010-03-24T16:31:58.799-0400)<br>
<br>
</tt><tt><br>
</tt></blockquote>
<br>
When I run with -XX:+PrintGCDateStamps I see entries such as<br>
<br>
2010-03-30T16:06:55.297-0700: 2.602: [GC 2.602: [ParNew:
29504K->3264K(29504K), 0.2457302 secs] 52405K->38187K(258880K),
0.2460394 secs] [Times: user=0.41 sys=0.02, real=0.25 secs]<br>
<br>
I don't know why you're not seeing that.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:4BB20B1C.4020608@alcatel-lucent.com" type="cite"><tt><br>
</tt><tt>1270.736: [GC 1270.736: [ParNew:
4872340K->574345K(5017600K),
0.1967262 secs] 7123984K->2972742K(13619200K), 0.1969106 secs]
[Times: user=1.45 sys=0.05, re<br>
al=0.20 secs]<br>
1272.024: [GC 1272.024: [ParNew: 4875542K->653139K(5017600K),
0.1334760 secs] 7273939K->3051536K(13619200K), 0.1336582 secs]
[Times: user=1.54 sys=0.01, re<br>
al=0.13 secs]<br>
<b>1272.158: [GC 1272.159: [ParNew: 681949K->563105K(5017600K),
0.2187865 secs] 3080347K->3158904K(13619200K), 0.2189362 secs]
[Times: user=1.48 sys=0.06, rea<br>
l=0.22 secs]</b><br>
1273.398: [GC 1273.398: [ParNew: 4863905K->535051K(5017600K),
0.1196808 secs] 7459704K->3130850K(13619200K), 0.1198694 secs]
[Times: user=1.51 sys=0.00, re<br>
al=0.12 secs]<br>
1274.461: [GC 1274.461: [ParNew: 4835851K->399744K(5017600K),
0.2861376 secs] 7431650K->3249248K(13619200K), 0.2863296 secs]
[Times: user=1.61 sys=0.09, re<br>
al=0.29 secs]<br>
<br>
5) Why did the middle minor collection occur? A big allocation?<br>
</tt><tt><br>
</tt></blockquote>
<br>That seems rather suspicious. It may be a side effect of using JNI critical sections. I don't<div>know if this is such a case but its the best behavior.</div><div><br><div>
<blockquote cite="mid:4BB20B1C.4020608@alcatel-lucent.com" type="cite"><tt><br>
<br>
- Promotion Failure<br>
4896.478: [GC 4896.478: [ParNew: 4894353K->587864K(5017600K),
0.4789909 secs] 8473688K->4268560K(13619200K), 0.4791812 secs]
[Times: user=1.00 sys=0.61, real=0.48 secs]<br>
4897.812: [GC 4897.812: [ParNew: 4888664K->545903K(5017600K),
0.4105613 secs] 8569360K->4326583K(13619200K), 0.4107560 secs]
[Times: user=1.06 sys=0.55, real=0.41 secs]<br>
4899.057: [GC 4899.058: [ParNew: 4846703K->638966K(5017600K),
0.2759734 secs] 8627383K->4496987K(13619200K), 0.2761637 secs]
[Times: user=1.13 sys=0.36, real=0.28 secs]<br>
4900.101: [GC 4900.101: [ParNew: 4939768K->630721K(5017600K),
0.5117751 secs] 8797789K->4607020K(13619200K), 0.5119662 secs]
[Times: user=0.84 sys=0.66, real=0.51 secs]<br>
4900.615: [GC 4900.615: [ParNew: 651487K->487288K(5017600K),
0.0780183 secs] 4627786K->4463587K(13619200K), 0.0781687 secs]
[Times: user=0.96 sys=0.00, real=0.08 secs]<br>
<b>4901.581: [GC 4901.581: [ParNew (promotion failed):
4788088K->4780999K(5017600K), 2.8947499 secs]4904.476: [CMS:
4003090K->1530872K(8601600K), 7.5122451 secs]
8764387K->1530872K(13619200K), [CMS Perm :
671102K->671102K(819200K)], 10.4072102 secs] [Times: user=11.03
sys=1.09, real=10.41 secs]</b><br>
4913.024: [GC 4913.024: [ParNew: 4300800K->316807K(5017600K),
0.0615917 secs] 5831672K->1847679K(13619200K), 0.0617857 secs]
[Times: user=0.74 sys=0.00, real=0.06 secs]<br>
4914.015: [GC 4914.015: [ParNew: 4617607K->475077K(5017600K),
0.0771389 secs] 6148479K->2005949K(13619200K), 0.0773290 secs]
[Times: user=0.95 sys=0.00, real=0.08 secs]<br>
4914.908: [GC 4914.908: [ParNew: 4775877K->586339K(5017600K),
0.0857102 secs] 6306749K->2117211K(13619200K), 0.0859046 secs]
[Times: user=1.06 sys=0.00, real=0.09 secs]<br>
4915.816: [GC 4915.816: [ParNew: 4887139K->476398K(5017600K),
0.1841627 secs] 6418011K->2152868K(13619200K), 0.1843556 secs]
[Times: user=1.32 sys=0.07, real=0.18 secs]<br>
6) So here i had a promotion failure, this is due to fragmentation of
the tenured generation rather than lack of space?<br>
</tt></blockquote>
<br>
Fragmentation is the likely problem. When 6u20 is released try it. It
does a better job<br>
of keeping fragmentation down.</div><div><br>
<blockquote cite="mid:4BB20B1C.4020608@alcatel-lucent.com" type="cite"><tt>7)
Do we need 1 contiguous space in tenured big enough to hold the
complete list/size of all objects being promoted, or<br>
do multiple spaces get used& the pieces don't all fit? <br>
</tt></blockquote>
<br>
The free space in the tenured generation is kept in a free list so
there are multiple chunks.</div><div>Don't need 1 contiguous chunk for all the promotions.<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:4BB20B1C.4020608@alcatel-lucent.com" type="cite"><tt>8)
What exactly is occurring during this promotion failed collection?
Based on the next example I assume<br>
it's a (successful) scavenge. What exactly is this - which thread(s)
serial / ParallelGCThreads?, <br>
STW?, are we simply compacting the tenured gen or are we can actually
GC the tenured?<br></tt></blockquote><div><br></div>A promotion failure is a scavenge that does not succeed because there is not enough</div><div>space in the old gen to do all the needed promotions. The scavenge is in essence</div><div>unwound and then a full STW compaction of the entire heap is done.</div><div><br><blockquote cite="mid:4BB20B1C.4020608@alcatel-lucent.com" type="cite"><tt>
<br>
<br>
<br>
promotion failed, and full GC<br>
50786.124: [GC 50786.124: [ParNew: 4606713K->338518K(5017600K),
0.0961884 secs] 12303455K->8081859K(13619200K), 0.0963907 secs]
[Times: user=0.91 sys=0.01, real=0.10 secs]<br>
50787.373: [GC 50787.373: [ParNew: 4639318K->272229K(5017600K),
0.0749353 secs] 12382659K->8053730K(13619200K), 0.0751408 secs]
[Times: user=0.75 sys=0.00, real=0.08 secs]<br>
50788.483: [GC 50788.483: [ParNew: 4573029K->393397K(5017600K),
0.0837182 secs] 12354530K->8185595K(13619200K), 0.0839321 secs]
[Times: user=1.03 sys=0.00, real=0.08 secs]<br>
50789.590: [GC 50789.590: [ParNew (promotion failed):
4694264K->4612345K(5017600K), 1.5974678 secs]
12486461K->12447305K(13619200K), 1.5976765 secs] [Times : user=2.38
sys=0.20, real=1.60 secs]<br>
GC locker: Trying a full collection because scavenge failed<br>
50791.188: [Full GC 50791.188: [CMS: 7834959K->1227325K(8601600K),
6.7102106 secs] 12447305K->1227325K(13619200K), [CMS Perm :
670478K->670478K(819200K)], 6.7103417 secs] [Times: user=6.71
sys=0.00, real=6.71 secs]<br>
50798.982: [GC 50798.982: [ParNew: 4300800K->217359K(5017600K),
0.0364557 secs] 5528125K->1444685K(13619200K), 0.0366630 secs]
[Times: user=0.44 sys=0.00, real=0.04 secs]<br>
50800.246: [GC 50800.246: [ParNew: 4518167K->198753K(5017600K),
0.0368620 secs] 5745493K->1426078K(13619200K), 0.0370604 secs]
[Times: user=0.46 sys=0.01, real=0.04 secs]<br>
9) Probably once I understand what the scavenge is doing will help me
understand this case, but logic seems<br>
simply enough - fullgc on promotionfailure&scavenge failed.<br></tt></blockquote><div><br></div>Yes, full STW compaction.</div><div><br><blockquote cite="mid:4BB20B1C.4020608@alcatel-lucent.com" type="cite"><tt>
<br>
<br>
<br>
promotion and concurrent mode failures<br>
53494.424: [GC 53494.424: [ParNew: 4979001K->716800K(5017600K),
0.2120290 secs] 12583633K->8434774K(13619200K), 0.2122200 secs]
[Times: user=2.12 sys=0.03, real=0.21 secs]<br>
53496.131: [GC 53496.131: [ParNew: 5017600K->605278K(5017600K),
0.2761710 secs] 12735574K->8578720K(13619200K), 0.2763597 secs]
[Times: user=1.94 sys=0.08, real=0.28 secs]<br>
[Times: user=0.16 sys=0.00, real=0.16 secs]<br>
2010-03-25T06:14:58.961-0400: 53496.568: [CMS-concurrent-mark-start]<br>
53497.688: [GC 53497.688: [ParNew: 4906078K->545999K(5017600K),
0.0989930 secs] 12879520K->8519441K(13619200K), 0.0991785 secs]
[Times: user=1.21 sys=0.02, real=0.10 secs]<br>
2010-03-25T06:15:00.188-0400: 53497.795: [CMS-concurrent-mark:
1.107/1.227 secs] [Times: user=15.14 sys=0.42, real=1.23 secs]<br>
2010-03-25T06:15:00.188-0400: 53497.795: [CMS-concurrent-preclean-start]<br>
2010-03-25T06:15:00.233-0400: 53497.840: [CMS-concurrent-preclean:
0.043/0.045 secs] [Times: user=0.31 sys=0.01, real=0.04 secs]<br>
2010-03-25T06:15:00.233-0400: 53497.840:
[CMS-concurrent-abortable-preclean-start]<br>
2010-03-25T06:15:00.794-0400: 53498.401:
[CMS-concurrent-abortable-preclean: 0.541/0.560 secs] [Times: user=6.11
sys=0.22, real=0.56 secs]<br>
[YG occupancy: 3222128 K (5017600 K)]53498.402: [Rescan (parallel) ,
0.4447462 secs]53498.847: [weak refs processing, 0.0028967
secs]53498.850: [class unloading, 0.0248904 secs]53498.875: [scrub
symbol & string tables, 0.0896937 secs] [Times: user=1.79 sys=0.35,
real=0.56 secs]<br>
2010-03-25T06:15:01.360-0400: 53498.967: [CMS-concurrent-sweep-start]
53499.350: [GC 53499.350: [ParNew (promotion failed):
4846799K->4718254K(5017600K), 5.3142493 secs]53504.664:
[CMS2010-03-25T06:15:11.506-0400: 53509.113:<br>
[CMS-concurrent-sweep: 4.825/10.146 secs] [Times: user=16.61 sys=2.94,
real=10.15 secs]<br>
(concurrent mode failure): 8087820K->1346631K(8601600K), 11.0573075
secs] 12820241K->1346631K(13619200K), [CMS Perm :
670478K->670478K(819200K)], 16.37177 19 secs] [Times: user=17.62
sys=2.66, real=16.37 secs]<br>
53516.713: [GC 53516.714: [ParNew: 4300800K->283359K(5017600K),
0.0498000 secs] 5647431K->1629990K(13619200K), 0.0499965 secs]
[Times: user=0.62 sys=0.00, real=0.05 secs]<br>
53517.743: [GC 53517.743: [ParNew: 4584343K->340302K(5017600K),
0.0544853 secs] 5930975K->1686933K(13619200K), 0.0546710 secs]
[Times: user=0.68 sys=0.00, real=0.05 secs]<br>
10) I think it's just the system is allocating at such at high rate at
this point in time ( and we don't use InitiatingOccupancy on this app)<br>
so we get close to full on tenured, minor collection came - no room
in tenured ---- so even though we don't say "Full GC" in this one,<br>
don't you get a Full GC as part of any concurrent-mode-failure?<br></tt></blockquote><div><br></div>The promotion failure that happens leads to the concurrent mode failure.<br><blockquote cite="mid:4BB20B1C.4020608@alcatel-lucent.com" type="cite"><tt>
<br>
<br>
promotion failed, scavenge failed, concurrent mode failure<br>
86833.016: [GC 86833.017: [ParNew: 4769273K->453398K(5017600K),
0.1316717 secs] 12418197K->8169164K(13619200K), 0.1319220 secs]
[Times: user=1.22 sys=0.03, real=0.13 secs]<br>
[Times: user=0.14 sys=0.00, real=0.15 secs]<br>
2010-03-25T15:30:37.688-0400: 86833.295: [CMS-concurrent-mark-start]<br>
86834.751: [GC 86834.751: [ParNew: 4754198K->513298K(5017600K),
0.1250485 secs] 12469964K->8281014K(13619200K), 0.1252553 secs]
[Times: user=1.38 sys=0.01, real=0.13 secs]<br>
2010-03-25T15:30:39.310-0400: 86834.917: [CMS-concurrent-mark:
1.453/1.621 secs] [Times: user=21.57 sys=1.15, real=1.62 secs]<br>
2010-03-25T15:30:39.310-0400: 86834.917: [CMS-concurrent-preclean-start]<br>
2010-03-25T15:30:39.650-0400: 86835.258: [CMS-concurrent-preclean:
0.337/0.341 secs] [Times: user=5.30 sys=0.18, real=0.34 secs]<br>
2010-03-25T15:30:39.651-0400: 86835.258:
[CMS-concurrent-abortable-preclean-start]<br>
2010-03-25T15:30:39.864-0400: 86835.471:
[CMS-concurrent-abortable-preclean: 0.211/0.214 secs] [Times: user=3.16
sys=0.19, real=0.21 secs]<br>
[YG occupancy: 3329361 K (5017600 K)]86835.500: [Rescan (parallel) ,
0.3868448 secs]86835.887: [weak refs processing, 0.0030042
secs]86835.890: [class unloading, 0.0250008 secs]86835.915: [scrub
symbol & string tables, 0.0904210 secs] [Times: user=1.85 sys=0.29,
real=0.51 secs]<br>
2010-03-25T15:30:40.401-0400: 86836.008: [CMS-concurrent-sweep-start]<br>
86836.421: [GC 86836.422: [ParNew: 4814154K->680591K(5017600K),
0.2031305 secs] 12581870K->8543701K(13619200K), 0.2033332 secs]
[Times: user=1.88 sys=0.04, real=0.20 secs]<br>
86836.627: [GC 86836.627: [ParNew (promotion failed):
720747K->511306K(5017600K), 1.3076955 secs]
8583857K->8560580K(13619200K), 1.3078889 secs] [Times: user=2.66
sys=0.78, real=1.31 secs]<br>
GC locker: Trying a full collection because scavenge failed<br>
86837.935: [Full GC 86837.935: [CMS2010-03-25T15:30:46.850-0400:
86842.457: [CMS-concurrent-sweep: 4.926/6.449 secs] [Times: user=15.24
sys=1.19, real=6.45 secs]<br>
(concurrent mode failure): 8049273K->1356962K(8601600K), 9.6514031
secs] 8560580K->1356962K(13619200K), [CMS Perm :
670523K->670523K(819200K)], 9.6515260 secs] [Times: user=9.65
sys=0.00, real=9.65 secs]<br>
86848.669: [GC 86848.669: [ParNew: 4301133K->201781K(5017600K),
0.0452702 secs] 5658095K->1558743K(13619200K), 0.0454738 secs]
[Times: user=0.57 sys=0.00, real=0.05 secs]<br>
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11) - So here our scavenge failed, - this is what gave us the "Full GC"
log message -- the concurrent mode failure <br>
was really just a coincidence/timing? The full gc (triggered by the
promotion failure) aborts the tenured CMS collection <br>
does it not?<br></tt></blockquote><div><br></div>The "GC locker" message says that after a JNI critical section was exited the GC wanted to</div><div>do a scavenge but did not think there was enough room in the old gen so it does a full</div><div>STW compaction. Because a CMS concurrent collection was in progress, it is aborted</div><div>and that abortion causes the concurrent mode failure to be printed. Not a coincidence.</div><div>Just telling you that the CMS concurrent collection could not be completed for some</div><div>reason.</div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote cite="mid:4BB20B1C.4020608@alcatel-lucent.com" type="cite"><tt>
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thanks,<br>
Shaun<br>
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