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    Hi Bengt,<br>
    <br>
    Great. The old names have been removed (they won't be accepted in
    either hs24 or hs25). This makes the changes a lot smaller. Your
    statement below was part of teh reason why I wanted them to stay
    experimental.<br>
    <br>
    JohnC<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/21/2012 5:47 AM, Bengt Rutisson
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        Hi John,<br>
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        On 12/20/12 7:04 PM, John Cuthbertson wrote:<br>
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        Hi Ramki, Bengt,<br>
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        Thanks for the reviews. I kept the old names because the perf
        team would like these backported to hs24 (7u12) and the old
        names have been published in several presentation decks -
        including one from Monica and Charlie at JavaOne. Does it still
        make sense to just accept the new names? The change would be
        much smaller if so.<br>
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      Personally I would still not think we should keep the old names.
      After all they are experimental flags.<br>
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      If we should keep the old names I think it would be enough to that
      in hs24/7u12. I would prefer that we don't have the old names in
      JDK8.<br>
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      Thanks,<br>
      Bengt<br>
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        Thanks,<br>
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        JohnC<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/20/2012 1:19 AM, Srinivas
          Ramakrishna wrote:<br>
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          type="cite">New names look good. I agree with Bengt that for
          renames of exptal flags in a major release bothering
          supporting old names is not worthwhile; best to<br>
          make a clean break with the old names.<br>
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          reviewed<br>
          -- ramki<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:30 PM,
            Bengt Rutisson <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                  Hi again John,<br>
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                  I realized that I was a bit too fast with my comment
                  about using ObsoleteFlag. Your code is aliasing the
                  old names for the new ones which is something the
                  obsolete flag management does not do.<br>
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                  But on the other hand, do we really want to do this?
                  These are all experimental flags and we are pushing
                  this change to a major release, JDK8. Personally I
                  don't think it is worth supporting the old names.<span
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                      Bengt</font></span>
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                      On 12/20/12 5:45 AM, Bengt Rutisson wrote:<br>
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                        Hi John,<br>
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                        This looks good. But I think that instead of
                        your change in arguments.cpp you could make use
                        of the obsolete_jvm_flags list that exist in the
                        same file. I think that is intended for exactly
                        this purpose. Accepting a removed flag name for
                        a little while. The nice thing about it it that
                        you specify how long you will accept the old
                        name.<br>
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                        static ObsoleteFlag obsolete_jvm_flags[] = {<br>
                          { "UseTrainGC",                   
                        JDK_Version::jdk(5), JDK_Version::jdk(7) },<br>
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                        If you use this you also have to remove the old
                        flag names from globals.hpp.<br>
                        <br>
                        Bengt<br>
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                        On 12/20/12 1:56 AM, John Cuthbertson wrote:<br>
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                        <br>
                        Some flag name changes suggested by the JVM
                        performance team based upon feedback they have
                        received. The webrev can found at: <a
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                          target="_blank">http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~johnc/8001424/webrev.0/</a>
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                        Basically the changes are those listed in the
                        webrev: <br>
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                        G1DefaultMinNewGenPercent is being replaced by
                        G1NewSizePercent <br>
                        G1DefaultMaxNewGenPercent is being replaced by
                        G1MaxNewSizePercent <br>
                        G1OldCSetRegionLiveThresholdPercent is being
                        replaced by G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent <br>
                        <br>
                        Thanks, <br>
                        <br>
                        JohnC <br>
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