<div dir="ltr">I was drafting an agenda. My expectation is that the meeting will go something like this:<div><br><div><div>Introductions </div><div><br></div><div>Discussion of motivations for JEP 291 (Jon M)</div><div><br></div><div>Discussions of concerns about JEP 291 (roundtable)</div><div><br></div><div>Discussion / Brainstorming about potential ways forward, as well as an understanding of what level of commitment organizations are willing to make.</div></div><div><br></div><div>Discussion of action items and followup.</div><div><br></div><div>Jeremy</div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 7:39 AM, Martijn Verburg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:martijnverburg@gmail.com" target="_blank">martijnverburg@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Jon,</div><div><br></div><div>For me it's to see if there are enough folks who are willing *and* capable (to be blunt, it will need the backing of large companies) of maintaining <span id="m_4881629336346031025:3ob.1">CMS</span> as a collector going forwards (it's important to several of our customers). If that's a yes then I'd hope to have a technical discussion around the options of how we could achieve that without causing a major headache for the Oracle <span id="m_4881629336346031025:3ob.2">GC</span> engineers.<br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_4881629336346031025gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Cheers,<br>Martijn</div></div><div><div class="h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 20 July 2016 at 23:50, Jon Masamitsu <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jon.masamitsu@oracle.com" target="_blank">jon.masamitsu@oracle.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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What are peoples expectations for this meeting?<br>
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Jon<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(85,85,85);font-size:12.8px;white-space:nowrap">Presumably,
everyone will be happy with meeting notes rather than an
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2016 at 5:07 AM, <a href="mailto:kirk.pepperdine@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:kirk.pepperdine@gmail.com" target="_blank">kirk.pepperdine@gmail.com</a>
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interest to keep this out in the
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1:34 AM, Richard Warburton
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<div dir="ltr">Sounds
as if the
consensus is a
telephone /
video conference
in the near
term, and then a
F2F during /
close to
JavaOne.
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want to be
invited
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<a href="mailto:kirk@kodewerk.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:kirk@kodewerk.com" target="_blank">kirk@kodewerk.com</a><br>
<a href="mailto:aph@redhat.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:aph@redhat.com" target="_blank">aph@redhat.com</a><br>
<a href="mailto:volker.simonis@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:volker.simonis@gmail.com" target="_blank">volker.simonis@gmail.com</a><br>
<a href="mailto:jon.masamitsu@oracle.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:jon.masamitsu@oracle.com" target="_blank">jon.masamitsu@oracle.com</a><br>
<a href="mailto:jeremymanson@google.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:jeremymanson@google.com" target="_blank">jeremymanson@google.com</a><br>
<a href="mailto:martijnverburg@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:martijnverburg@gmail.com" target="_blank">martijnverburg@gmail.com</a>
<div><a href="mailto:jwha@google.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:jwha@google.com" target="_blank">jwha@google.com</a></div>
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anyone? We
can take date
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planning and
logistics
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<div class="gmail_extra">Given
that this change
affects a lot of
organisations and
people in the wider
Java community I
think it would be
really appreciated
that a brief summary
of the discussion be
published somewhere
in public. Maybe
this mailing list?</div>
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<div>regards,<br>
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Richard
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