YGC time increasing suddenly

Мамонтов Иван ivan.mamontov at gmail.com
Thu Dec 19 09:26:11 PST 2013


I am very interested in the number of created threads since the beginning
of the application.
If you use an executor, you can tell a static sequence number, for example
*coreLoadExecutor-3-thread-3*


2013/12/19 Мамонтов Иван <ivan.mamontov at gmail.com>

> Hi,
>
> I had the same problem as you describe, but first I need to know one
> thing:
>
>    - How many threads have been created at runtime?
>
>
> I am writing a letter describing the same issue and its solution.
>
> 2013/12/19 Luciano Molinari <lucmolinari at gmail.com>
>
>> Bernd and Wolfgang, thanks for your quick answers. I took some time to
>> answer them because I was running some tests based on your comments.
>>
>> *Bernd:* I would look at the finalizer queue first.
>> *A: *From what I could find in the code, it doesn't seem to have
>> explicit finalizers. Is there any way to check this queue?I found some
>> articles about the problems finalize() method may cause, but I wasn't able
>> to find something related to monitoring this queue.
>>
>> *Bernd:* And if that does not cut it,  take a heapdump and inspect it
>> for unexpected large dominators (maybe  cached softreferences - not sure
>> about RMI DGC havent seen problems with  it, but it sure can be a
>> problem if it only cleans up once an hour.).
>> *A:* Regarding RMI, I ran some tests replacing it by JeroMQ but
>> unfortunately I got the same results. About heapdump, Eclipse MAT shows
>> almost nothing (only ~50mb) because the majority of objects are unreachable.
>>
>> *Bernd:* How often do you see YGC at the beginning and then over time?
>> It looks   like every 2s? You might want to resize YGC by larger factors
>> (but with the yg already at 4g I guess something else is a problem here).
>> *A*: After I start my tests, YGC occurs once or twice every 3 seconds,
>> as the following log shows:
>> jstat -gcutil 29331 3000
>>   S0     S1     E      O      P     YGC     YGCT    FGC    FGCT     GCT
>>   1.40   0.00  89.74   2.13  11.86    602   12.126     1    0.086   12.212
>>   1.64   0.00  66.92   2.13  11.86    604   12.166     1    0.086   12.252
>>   1.38   0.00  41.10   2.13  11.86    606   12.204     1    0.086   12.290
>>   1.47   0.00  10.86   2.13  11.86    608   12.244     1    0.086   12.330
>>   0.00   1.47  89.35   2.13  11.86    609   12.265     1    0.086   12.351
>>   0.00   1.51  62.11   2.13  11.86    611   12.305     1    0.086   12.391
>>   0.00   1.38  32.83   2.14  11.86    613   12.346     1    0.086   12.432
>>   0.00   0.96  11.06   2.21  11.86    615   12.386     1    0.086   12.472
>>   0.97   0.00  72.35   2.22  11.86    616   12.406     1    0.086   12.492
>> It keeps this rate during the whole time, the only difference is that
>> collections start to last longer.
>>
>> *Bernd:* You claim that most of the data only lives for 100ms, that does
>> not match  with the age-size distribution (not at the beginning not at the
>> end).
>> *A:* I said that for 2 reasons. Firstly, you can see by the log bellow
>> that most transactions last < 25 ms:
>>
>> | interval             | number of transactions | %                |
>> |------------------------+---------------------------+-------------------------|
>> |          0 ms <= n <  25 ms :    7487644     :   97.704                |
>> |         25 ms <= n < 50 ms :     137146     :    1.790                |
>> |         50 ms <= n < 75 ms :      26422     :    0.345                |
>> |         75 ms <= n < 100 ms :       8086     :    0.106                |
>> |        100 ms <= n < 200 ms :       4081     :    0.053                |
>> |        200 ms <= n < 500 ms :        216     :    0.003                |
>> |        500 ms <= n < 1000 ms :          0     :    0.000
>>  |
>>
>> And secondly, very few objects are promoted to old gen.
>>
>> *Wolfgang*, what you said about survivor also seems to make sense, but I
>> ran some tests with survivorRation=8 and survivorRation=16 and the
>> results were pretty much the same.
>>
>> I also collected some data using "sar -B" and vmstat commands in order
>> to try to find out something else.
>>
>> sar -B
>>
>> 12:58:33 PM  pgpgin/s pgpgout/s   fault/s  majflt/s
>> 12:58:43 PM      0.00      5.19     16.98      0.00
>> 12:58:53 PM      0.00      6.80     20.70      0.00
>> 12:59:03 PM      0.00     12.81     16.72      0.00
>> 12:59:13 PM      0.00      3.60     17.98      0.00
>> 12:59:23 PM      0.00     14.81    118.42      0.00
>> 12:59:33 PM      0.00     11.20     90.70      0.00
>> 12:59:43 PM      0.00      5.20    662.60      0.00 (here GC started to
>> take longer)
>> 12:59:53 PM      0.00      5.20   1313.10      0.00
>> 01:00:03 PM      0.00     20.42    960.66      0.00
>> 01:00:13 PM      0.00     17.18    620.78      0.00
>> 01:00:23 PM      0.00      3.60    725.93      0.00
>> 01:00:33 PM      0.00     15.18    465.13      0.00
>> 01:00:33 PM  pgpgin/s pgpgout/s   fault/s  majflt/s
>> 01:00:43 PM      0.00     12.01    508.31      0.00
>> 01:00:53 PM      0.00      6.00    588.50      0.00
>> 01:01:03 PM      0.00     20.00    660.80      0.00
>> 01:01:13 PM      0.00      6.79    553.05      0.00
>>
>> Page faults start to increase along with the degradation problem, but I'm
>> not 100% sure about this relation, mainly because there's a lot of free
>> memory, as vmstat shows bellow. However, I saw some people saying that
>> page faults may occur even when there is free memory.
>>
>> vmstat
>>
>> procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- --system-- -----
>> cpu------
>>  r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in   cs us syid
>> wa st
>> 34  0      0 10803608 196472 925120    0    0     0     4 64804 109417 49
>>  7 45  0  0
>> 17  0      0 10802604 196472 925120    0    0     0    14 66130 111493 52
>>  7 41  0  0
>> 22  0      0 10795060 196472 925120    0    0     0    12 65331 110577 49
>>  7 45  0  0
>> 20  0      0 10758080 196472 925120    0    0     0     4 65222 111041 48
>>  7 45  0  0
>> 23  0      0 10712208 196472 925120    0    0     0     7 64759 110016 49
>>  7 45  0  0
>>  8  0      0 10682828 196472 925140    0    0     0    33 64780 109899 49
>>  7 44  0  0
>> 17  0      0 10655280 196472 925140    0    0     0     5 64321 109619 50
>>  7 44  0  0
>> procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- --system-- -----
>> cpu------
>>  r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in   cs us syid
>> wa st
>> 17  0      0 10636300 196472 925140    0    0     0    12 64574 108885 50
>>  7 44  0  0
>>  4  0      0 10614888 196472 925140    0    0     0     5 63384 107379 49
>>  7 44  0  0
>> 18  0      0 10595172 196472 925140    0    0     0    14 65450 110004 50
>>  7 43  0  0
>> 28  0      0 10576420 196472 925140    0    0     0     4 64720 109119 48
>>  7 45  0  0
>> 29  0      0 10554908 196472 925140    0    0     0    25 64051 108606 51
>>  7 42  0  0
>> 33  0      0 10537584 196472 925140    0    0     0    11 64501 109765 50
>>  7 43  0  0
>> 24  0      0 10521128 196472 925140    0    0     0     5 64439 109538 51
>>  7 42  0  0
>>
>> It seems that vmstat doesn't show anything problematic.
>>
>> Any other advice?
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Wolfgang Pedot <
>> wolfgang.pedot at finkzeit.at> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> this is the first time I write an answer on this mailing-list so this
>>> could be totally useless but here goes:
>>>
>>> Your survivor-space seems to be quite empty, is the usage that low on
>>> all collects during your test? If so you could increase your survivor-ratio
>>> to gain more eden-space and if not many objects die in survivor you could
>>> also reduce the tenuring threshold. Total survivor usage has grown 6-fold
>>> from first to last GC and survivor space needs to be copied on each young
>>> gc. I admit it should probably not take that long to copy 60MB though...
>>>
>>> Here is a young-gc from one of my logs for comparison:
>>>
>>> 30230.123: [ParNew
>>> Desired survivor size 524261784 bytes, new threshold 12 (max 15)
>>> - age   1:  113917760 bytes,  113917760 total
>>> - age   2:   86192768 bytes,  200110528 total
>>> - age   3:   59060992 bytes,  259171520 total
>>> - age   4:   59319272 bytes,  318490792 total
>>> - age   5:   45307432 bytes,  363798224 total
>>> - age   6:   29478464 bytes,  393276688 total
>>> - age   7:   27440744 bytes,  420717432 total
>>> - age   8:   27947680 bytes,  448665112 total
>>> - age   9:   27294496 bytes,  475959608 total
>>> - age  10:   32830144 bytes,  508789752 total
>>> - age  11:    7490968 bytes,  516280720 total
>>> - age  12:   10723104 bytes,  527003824 total
>>> - age  13:    4549808 bytes,  531553632 total
>>> : 4306611K->731392K(4388608K), 0.1433810 secs]
>>> 10422356K->6878961K(14116608K)
>>>
>>> This is with MaxNewSize 5500m and a Survivor-Ratio of 8. You can see
>>> that GC-time is higher than yours (6core 3.33GHz Xeon), survivor-usage is
>>> way higher though.
>>>
>>> Hope I could help
>>> Wolfgang
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 18.12.2013 19:58, schrieb Luciano Molinari:
>>>
>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>
>>>> We have a standalone Java app that receives requests through RMI and
>>>> almost all the objects created by it are short (< ~100ms) lived objects.
>>>> This app is running on a 24 cores server with 16 GB RAM (Red Hat Linux).
>>>> During our performance tests (10k requests/second) we started to face a
>>>> problem where the throughput decreases suddenly just a few minutes
>>>> after the app was started.
>>>> So, I started to investigate GC behaviour and to make some adjustments
>>>> (increase memory, use CMS...) and now we are able to run our app
>>>> properly for about 35 minutes. At this point the time spent during young
>>>> collections grows sharply although no Full GC is executed (old gen is
>>>> only ~4% full).
>>>>
>>>> I've done tests with many different parameters, but currently I'm using
>>>> the following ones:
>>>> java -server -verbose:gc -XX:+PrintGCDetails
>>>> -XX:+PrintTenuringDistribution -XX:+PrintGCTimeStamps
>>>> -XX:PrintFLSStatistics=1 -XX:SurvivorRatio=4
>>>> -XX:ParallelGCThreads=8 -XX:PermSize=256m -XX:+UseParNewGC
>>>> -XX:MaxPermSize=256m -Xms7g -Xmx7g -XX:NewSize=4608m
>>>> -XX:MaxNewSize=4608m
>>>> -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=15 -Dsun.rmi.dgc.client.gcInterval=3600000
>>>> -Dsun.rmi.dgc.server.gcInterval=3600000
>>>>   -Djava.rmi.server.hostname=IP_ADDRESS
>>>>
>>>> If I use this same configuration (without CMS) the same problem occurs
>>>> after 20minutes, so it doesn't seem to be related to CMS. Actually, as I
>>>> mentioned above, CMS (Full GC) isn't executed during the tests.
>>>>
>>>> Some logs I've collected:
>>>>
>>>> 1992.748: [ParNew
>>>> Desired survivor size 402653184 bytes, new threshold 15 (max 15)
>>>> - age   1:    9308728 bytes,    9308728 total
>>>> - age   2:       3448 bytes,    9312176 total
>>>> - age   3:       1080 bytes,    9313256 total
>>>> - age   4:         32 bytes,    9313288 total
>>>> - age   5:      34768 bytes,    9348056 total
>>>> - age   6:         32 bytes,    9348088 total
>>>> - age  15:       2712 bytes,    9350800 total
>>>> : 3154710K->10313K(3932160K), 0.0273150 secs] 3215786K->71392K(6553600K)
>>>>
>>>> //14 YGC happened during this window
>>>>
>>>> 2021.165: [ParNew
>>>> Desired survivor size 402653184 bytes, new threshold 15 (max 15)
>>>> - age   1:    9459544 bytes,    9459544 total
>>>> - age   2:    3648200 bytes,   13107744 total
>>>> - age   3:    3837976 bytes,   16945720 total
>>>> - age   4:    3472448 bytes,   20418168 total
>>>> - age   5:    3586896 bytes,   24005064 total
>>>> - age   6:    3475560 bytes,   27480624 total
>>>> - age   7:    3520952 bytes,   31001576 total
>>>> - age   8:    3612088 bytes,   34613664 total
>>>> - age   9:    3355160 bytes,   37968824 total
>>>> - age  10:    3823032 bytes,   41791856 total
>>>> - age  11:    3304576 bytes,   45096432 total
>>>> - age  12:    3671288 bytes,   48767720 total
>>>> - age  13:    3558696 bytes,   52326416 total
>>>> - age  14:    3805744 bytes,   56132160 total
>>>> - age  15:    3429672 bytes,   59561832 total
>>>> : 3230658K->77508K(3932160K), 0.1143860 secs]
>>>> 3291757K->142447K(6553600K)
>>>>
>>>> Besides the longer time to perform collection, I also realized that all
>>>> 15 ages started to have larger values.
>>>>
>>>> I must say I'm a little confused about this scenario. Does anyone have
>>>> some tip?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> --
>>>> Luciano
>>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Luciano Davoglio Molinari
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Thanks,
Ivan
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