From george at georgeluiz.com  Wed May 15 19:47:10 2019
From: george at georgeluiz.com (George Luiz Bittencourt)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 16:47:10 -0300
Subject: -Xms and -Xmx
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Hello,

I see a lot of people in the Java world saying to configure both the -Xms
and -Xmx parameters as the same value.
However I don't see a reason for that. I come from the .NET world where we
do not configure theses parameters and it works perfectly.

My question is: what are the disadvantages of not configuring them as the
same value?
I want to visualize using top or task manager the real use of memory of my
Java applications.

Thanks,

-- 
-George
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From tequilaron at gmail.com  Wed May 15 20:01:09 2019
From: tequilaron at gmail.com (Ron Reynolds)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 13:01:09 -0700
Subject: -Xms and -Xmx
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the point of setting start and max heap sizes to the same value is to avoid
the cost of having to increase the heap size at runtime in those cases
where you are fairly sure you will need all the heap (i.e., server
environments).  the disadvantages of setting them is that you might be
reserving more heap space than your JVM really needs, which isn't a nice
thing to do to other processes on the same box, especially if memory is
tight.  variable memory usage is normally a client thing where the load is
lower (driven my user actions).

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:47 PM George Luiz Bittencourt <
george at georgeluiz.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I see a lot of people in the Java world saying to configure both the -Xms
> and -Xmx parameters as the same value.
> However I don't see a reason for that. I come from the .NET world where we
> do not configure theses parameters and it works perfectly.
>
> My question is: what are the disadvantages of not configuring them as the
> same value?
> I want to visualize using top or task manager the real use of memory of my
> Java applications.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> -George
> _______________________________________________
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From hohensee at amazon.com  Wed May 15 20:23:17 2019
From: hohensee at amazon.com (Hohensee, Paul)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 20:23:17 +0000
Subject: -Xms and -Xmx
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Another reason to set them equal is to make sure there?s enough physical memory available to back the heap. Otherwise, you might get an OOM when the JVM tries to commit more memory.

Paul

From: hotspot-gc-use <hotspot-gc-use-bounces at openjdk.java.net> on behalf of Ron Reynolds <tequilaron at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 1:02 PM
To: George Luiz Bittencourt <george at georgeluiz.com>
Cc: GC OpenJDK Hotspot Use List <hotspot-gc-use at openjdk.java.net>
Subject: Re: -Xms and -Xmx

the point of setting start and max heap sizes to the same value is to avoid the cost of having to increase the heap size at runtime in those cases where you are fairly sure you will need all the heap (i.e., server environments).  the disadvantages of setting them is that you might be reserving more heap space than your JVM really needs, which isn't a nice thing to do to other processes on the same box, especially if memory is tight.  variable memory usage is normally a client thing where the load is lower (driven my user actions).

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:47 PM George Luiz Bittencourt <george at georgeluiz.com<mailto:george at georgeluiz.com>> wrote:
Hello,

I see a lot of people in the Java world saying to configure both the -Xms and -Xmx parameters as the same value.
However I don't see a reason for that. I come from the .NET world where we do not configure theses parameters and it works perfectly.

My question is: what are the disadvantages of not configuring them as the same value?
I want to visualize using top or task manager the real use of memory of my Java applications.

Thanks,

--
-George
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