RFR: 8250598: Hyper-V is detected in spite of running on host OS
David Holmes
david.holmes at oracle.com
Mon Jul 27 07:48:25 UTC 2020
On 27/07/2020 5:20 pm, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
> On 2020/07/27 16:09, David Holmes wrote:
>> On 27/07/2020 3:23 pm, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
>>> On 2020/07/27 14:21, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
>>>> Hi David,
>>>>
>>>> On 2020/07/27 14:02, David Holmes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27/07/2020 2:24 pm, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please review this change:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JBS: https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8250598
>>>>>> webrev:
>>>>>> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~ysuenaga/JDK-8250598/webrev.00/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I got hs_err log on Windows, I saw "HyperV virtualization
>>>>>> detected" in it in spite of running on host OS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hypervisor detector has been introduced in JDK-8219241, but it has
>>>>>> some problems as below:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Hyper-V is detected on Windows in spite of running on host OS
>>>>>> - Call CPUID with other than EAX = 40000000h (it is not
>>>>>> described in the spec [1])
>>>>>
>>>>> That VMWare document is not a "spec" for anything other than
>>>>> VMware. So this may work for VMWare:
>>>>>
>>>>> a->movl(rax, 0x40000000);
>>>>>
>>>>> but may not work for all other HV environments - which is why the
>>>>> original code checks a range of addresses within the reserved area.
>>>>> See this related code for example:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://git.annexia.org/?p=virt-what.git;a=blob;f=virt-what-cpuid-helper.c;h=9c6cdb290105ca86868e2c7935ed42a55598b0f7;hb=HEAD
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 71 /* Most hypervisors only have information in leaf 0x40000000.
>>>>> 72 *
>>>>> 73 * Some hypervisors have "Viridian [HyperV] extensions",
>>>>> and those
>>>>> 74 * must appear in slot 0x40000000, but they will also have
>>>>> the true
>>>>> 75 * hypervisor in a higher slot.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have to be able to check this on a range of HV's to ensure you
>>>>> have not broken anything.
>>>>
>>>> Currently this feature supports VMware, Hyper-V, KVM, Xen.
>>>> We can distinguish them from CPUID with 40000000h. So we should not
>>>> check other than 40000000h.
>>>>
>>>> VMware: https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/1009458
>>>> Hyper-V:
>>>> https://docs.microsoft.com/virtualization/hyper-v-on-windows/reference/hyper-v-architecture
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, Hyper-V spec is here:
>>>
>>> https://docs.microsoft.com/virtualization/hyper-v-on-windows/reference/tlfs
>>>
>>>
>>> In Windows Server 2019, you can see CPUID in 2.4.1 .
>>>
>>>
>>>> KVM: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/virt/kvm/cpuid.html
>>>> Xen:
>>>> https://xenbits.xen.org/docs/unstable/hypercall/x86_32/include,public,arch-x86,cpuid.h.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Did you actually diagnose why the existing code mis-detects Hyper-V
>>>>> under Windows?
>>>>
>>>> CPUID with EAX = 40000000h returns "Microsoft Hv" if Hyper-V is
>>>> installed. I guess it is caused by Hyper-V architecture.
>>
>> But do we actually check the enabled bit:
>>
>> "Bit 31 returned in ECX is defined as Not Used, and will always return
>> 0 from the physical CPU. A hypervisor conformant with the Microsoft
>> hypervisor interface will set CPUID.1:ECX [bit 31] = 1 to indicate its
>> presence to software."
>>
>> ?
>
> CPUID with EAX = 40000000h would be handled in vCPU, so it is worth to
> check bit 31.
> KVM document implies it.
>
> https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/virt/kvm/cpuid.html
Let me try this again. This bug report was created because the hpervisor
detection code is falsely reporting we are executing in hyper-v under
Windows even when we are actually running a non-virtualized native OS.
My question about the original is code is what part of it, exactly, is
responsible for that false report?
Thanks,
David
>
> Thanks,
>
> Yasumasa
>
>
>> Thanks,
>> David
>> -----
>>
>>>> According to [1], root partition is as a host OS, so I guess JVM
>>>> would detect which is running on Hyper-V even if it is running on
>>>> host OS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Yasumasa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://docs.microsoft.com/ja-jp/virtualization/hyper-v-on-windows/reference/hyper-v-architecture
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>> -----
>>>>>
>>>>>> - Does not check CPUID hypervisor present bit [1]
>>>>>> - Does not support x86 (32bit) platform
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've tested this change on submit repo, and have checked output
>>>>>> from VM.info jcmd on following environment:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Windows x64 (host)
>>>>>> - Windows x64 (Hyper-V guest)
>>>>>> - Fedora32 x64 (Hyper-V guest)
>>>>>> - 32 bit JDK on Fedora32 x64 (Hyper-V guest)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yasumasa
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/1009458
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