From nicholas at nicholaswilliams.net Sun Jun 9 11:34:21 2013 From: nicholas at nicholaswilliams.net (Nick Williams) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 13:34:21 -0500 Subject: Frustrated; how to contribute with no moderation, no responses? Message-ID: I must admit, I'm a bit frustrated. Maybe (hopefully) I've missed something or misunderstood something. I'd like to contribute suggestions and/or ask questions regarding the Java 8 specification. My understanding was that such contributions from the community were welcomed so that the spec and the implementation could be made as high-quality as possible. However, when I post to the observers list nobody ever responds, and when I post to the comments list a moderator never approves my posts. How am I supposed to contribute? Is there some other list or forum that I'm missing? From mark.reinhold at oracle.com Wed Jun 12 09:17:57 2013 From: mark.reinhold at oracle.com (mark.reinhold at oracle.com) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:17:57 -0700 Subject: Frustrated; how to contribute with no moderation, no responses? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20130612091757.498221@eggemoggin.niobe.net> 2013/6/9 4:34 -0700, nicholas at nicholaswilliams.net: > I must admit, I'm a bit frustrated. Maybe (hopefully) I've missed > something or misunderstood something. I'd like to contribute > suggestions and/or ask questions regarding the Java 8 > specification. My understanding was that such contributions from the > community were welcomed so that the spec and the implementation could > be made as high-quality as possible. However, when I post to the > observers list nobody ever responds, No one is obligated to respond to messages sent to the observers list, per the description on the JSR 337 page [1]. > and when I post to the comments > list a moderator never approves my posts. My apologies -- moderation requests for the comments list weren't making it into my inbox, but I've fixed that. > How am I supposed to contribute? Is there some other list or forum > that I'm missing? You're welcome to send detailed comments and suggestions to the java-se-8-spec-comments list, and all such messages will eventually get a response. You're likely to get a more immediate response, however, if you go directly to the relevant OpenJDK mailing list. The core-libs-dev list, e.g., would be a good place to raise your suggestions about the StackTraceElement and MessageFormat classes. - Mark [1] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk8/spec/ From nicholas at nicholaswilliams.net Sat Jun 15 11:07:35 2013 From: nicholas at nicholaswilliams.net (Nick Williams) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:07:35 -0500 Subject: Frustrated; how to contribute with no moderation, no responses? In-Reply-To: <20130612091757.498221@eggemoggin.niobe.net> References: <20130612091757.498221@eggemoggin.niobe.net> Message-ID: On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:17 AM, mark.reinhold at oracle.com wrote: > 2013/6/9 4:34 -0700, nicholas at nicholaswilliams.net: >> I must admit, I'm a bit frustrated. Maybe (hopefully) I've missed >> something or misunderstood something. I'd like to contribute >> suggestions and/or ask questions regarding the Java 8 >> specification. My understanding was that such contributions from the >> community were welcomed so that the spec and the implementation could >> be made as high-quality as possible. However, when I post to the >> observers list nobody ever responds, > > No one is obligated to respond to messages sent to the observers > list, per the description on the JSR 337 page [1]. Yes. I had see this and that is why I tried out the comments list instead. > >> and when I post to the comments >> list a moderator never approves my posts. > > My apologies -- moderation requests for the comments list weren't > making it into my inbox, but I've fixed that. Thanks. I'm glad to see I wasn't just being ignored. :-) > >> How am I supposed to contribute? Is there some other list or forum >> that I'm missing? > > You're welcome to send detailed comments and suggestions to the > java-se-8-spec-comments list, and all such messages will eventually > get a response. You're likely to get a more immediate response, > however, if you go directly to the relevant OpenJDK mailing list. > The core-libs-dev list, e.g., would be a good place to raise your > suggestions about the StackTraceElement and MessageFormat classes. Thanks! I didn't know about the core-libs-dev list. I will go there for these suggestions. > > - Mark > > > [1] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk8/spec/ Nick