From iris.clark at oracle.com  Tue Sep  1 17:09:55 2020
From: iris.clark at oracle.com (Iris Clark)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 10:09:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: JSR 390 (Java SE 15) -- Final Release Specification, RI, and TCK --
 DRAFT
Message-ID: <c1982db0-39e1-4bee-b9cf-968553bdc68f@default>

Hi.

The draft Final Release Specification is available here:

    https://cr.openjdk.java.net/~iris/se/15/spec/fr/java-se-15-fr-spec-01/

It is identical to DRAFT 36 [0] with the exception of subtitles which were
changed from "Specification -- DRAFT 36" to "Final Release Specification --
DRAFT 1" and more colorful formatting of preview feature diffs in Annex 3.

The draft Reference Implementation, based on JDK 15 build 36, is available
here:

    https://jdk.java.net/java-se-ri/15

The RI is under the GPL license.

The draft TCK has already been made available to EG members.  The most recent
promotion is build 13, based on JDK 15 build 36.  The final TCK is expected
soon thereafter.  No significant changes are expected between the builds.

The Public Review Final Approval Ballot was approved on 31 Aug 2020 [1].  I
plan to submit the Specification, RI, and TCK to the JCP PMO for the Final
Release in early September.

Thanks,
Iris

[0]: http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~iris/se/15/spec/draft/java-se-15-draft-spec-36/
[1]: https://jcp.org/en/jsr/results?id=6248

From raskutic23ron at outlook.com  Tue Sep 22 19:14:20 2020
From: raskutic23ron at outlook.com (Ron Tlaib)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 19:14:20 +0000
Subject: Java SE 15  is a LTS release?
Message-ID: <HK0PR02MB376457EB2963BFB92B27CD1EAE3B0@HK0PR02MB3764.apcprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Slightly curious since I glanced at the thread [1].
The FinRel Spec page from the thread quite astonishingly has no information in this regard. [2]


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[1] the thread - https://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/java-se-spec-observers/2020-September/000178.html
[2] https://cr.openjdk.java.net/~iris/se/15/spec/fr/java-se-15-fr-spec-01/
[3] FinRel Spec -> Final Release Specification

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Word - Pettifogging 
1 being petty
2 spreading a fog of petty behavior or inconsequential mannerisms
3 2 is often at the expense of general set of rational, collected users.
4 use a source that's not a dictionary, unless you're just beginning.

From raskutic23ron at outlook.com  Tue Sep 22 19:15:42 2020
From: raskutic23ron at outlook.com (Ron Tlaib)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 19:15:42 +0000
Subject: Java SE 15  is a LTS release?
In-Reply-To: <HK0PR02MB376457EB2963BFB92B27CD1EAE3B0@HK0PR02MB3764.apcprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <HK0PR02MB376457EB2963BFB92B27CD1EAE3B0@HK0PR02MB3764.apcprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <HK0PR02MB37641DD22BAEBB1A0814BBE9AE3B0@HK0PR02MB3764.apcprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Testing something. Should show up as a reply to my first post.

________________________________________
From: Ron Tlaib <raskutic23ron at outlook.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 12:14 AM
To: java-se-spec-observers at openjdk.java.net
Subject: Java SE 15  is a LTS release?

Slightly curious since I glanced at the thread [1].
The FinRel Spec page from the thread quite astonishingly has no information in this regard. [2]


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[1] the thread - https://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/java-se-spec-observers/2020-September/000178.html
[2] https://cr.openjdk.java.net/~iris/se/15/spec/fr/java-se-15-fr-spec-01/
[3] FinRel Spec -> Final Release Specification

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Word - Pettifogging
1 being petty
2 spreading a fog of petty behavior or inconsequential mannerisms
3 2 is often at the expense of general set of rational, collected users.
4 use a source that's not a dictionary, unless you're just beginning.

From alex.buckley at oracle.com  Tue Sep 22 20:35:57 2020
From: alex.buckley at oracle.com (Alex Buckley)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 13:35:57 -0700
Subject: Java SE 15 is a LTS release?
In-Reply-To: <HK0PR02MB376457EB2963BFB92B27CD1EAE3B0@HK0PR02MB3764.apcprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <HK0PR02MB376457EB2963BFB92B27CD1EAE3B0@HK0PR02MB3764.apcprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <7e06a0a7-5a66-e7d6-dc71-9364e4c2ec29@oracle.com>

Long Term Support (LTS) is a commercial concept, unrelated to the JCP or 
to OpenJDK.

Some releases of the Oracle JDK are LTS releases, which means that 
Oracle offers many years of updates and support for those releases to 
customers who purchase a Java SE Subscription from Oracle (see 
https://www.oracle.com/java/java-se-subscription.html).

Oracle JDK 8 is an LTS release, as is Oracle JDK 11. In contrast:

- Oracle's OpenJDK binaries at jdk.java.net are not LTS releases.
- The Java SE Platform itself does not have LTS releases.
- The JDK Project in OpenJDK, which implements the Java SE Platform, 
does not have LTS releases.

Some organizations offer Java 8 and Java 11 binaries built from the JDK 
Updates Project in OpenJDK. The actual maintenance of the Java 8 and 
Java 11 codebases in the JDK Updates Project is overseen by engineers 
from Red Hat. Although the result is a stream of _updates_ for Java 8 
and Java 11 binaries, this is not _support_, and the term is not 
guaranteed to be long.

Alex

On 9/22/2020 12:14 PM, Ron Tlaib wrote:
> Slightly curious since I glanced at the thread [1].
> The FinRel Spec page from the thread quite astonishingly has no information in this regard. [2]
> 
> 
> --- Footer ---
> Unfortunate Note - Please keep all OpenJDK project mailing lists civil with utmost priority. Don't use mailing list etiquette as a facade for pettifogging.
> 
> 
> [1] the thread - https://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/java-se-spec-observers/2020-September/000178.html
> [2] https://cr.openjdk.java.net/~iris/se/15/spec/fr/java-se-15-fr-spec-01/
> [3] FinRel Spec -> Final Release Specification

From iris.clark at oracle.com  Fri Sep 25 23:30:54 2020
From: iris.clark at oracle.com (Iris Clark)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 16:30:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: New Candidate JEP: 390 Warnings for Value-Based Classes
Message-ID: <fc03bdae-7e85-4384-af17-be31a6afcee8@default>

The following JEP with scope "SE" has been moved to the Candidate state:

  390: Warnings for Value-Based Classes
       https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/390

A JEP in the Candidate state is a feature deemed worthy of consideration by
the JDK Project, but with no commitment to deliver the feature in any
particular release of the JDK Project. Later, the JEP may be moved to the
Targeted state, which indicates that the feature is expected to appear in a
specific release of the JDK Project.  For more information about states, see
the JEP Process document:

    https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/1

A JEP with "SE" scope that reaches the Targeted state will be listed in the
Specification of the Java SE Platform JSR which corresponds to the targeted
JDK Project release.

A dashboard that lists JEPs with "SE" scope may be found via a link on this
page:

    https://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/16/spec/

Thanks,
Iris