Introducing time wasters

Mikael Vidstedt mikael.vidstedt at oracle.com
Fri Sep 21 18:26:11 UTC 2018


I also like dev-productivity for many the same reasons!

Cheers,
Mikael

> On Sep 21, 2018, at 4:45 AM, Magnus Ihse Bursie <magnus.ihse.bursie at oracle.com> wrote:
> 
> On 2018-09-21 04:14, Aaron Scott-Boddendijk wrote:
>> I like the 'affects-dev' idea but maybe it should say how it affects them -
>> productivity... "dev-productivity" maybe?
> Of all the suggestions given on this list, I like "dev-productivity" by far best!
> 
> It's to the point, but still generic enough to be applied to anything (not just product bugs, but also slow builds or improper inclusion of slow tests) what is believed to improve developer productivity.
> 
> As you say, developer productivity affects the customers in the end, but since it does so indirectly, it's not always so clear.
> 
> /Magnus
>> 
>> The productivity losses taking the form of of one or more of the following
>> (and almost certainly not exhaustive):
>> 
>> * Redundantly repeated investigation (because the cause and symptoms make
>> it non-obvious to find in the bug log).
>> * Interrupting developer workflow or requiring a low-productivity
>> workaround.
>> * Impacting workflow efficiency, such as slow builds, tests, requiring
>> repeated test-infrastructure tear-up/set-up cycles etc.
>> 
>> This tag could mark issues that are bad things or good things for
>> dev-productivity, anything that improves productivity by better tooling or
>> removing pain.
>> 
>> It should be noted that such bugs do impact customers - it's just that the
>> impact is indirect, they get features and other fixes more slowly because
>> the team is repeatedly impacted by this bug.
>> 
>> --
>> Aaron Scott-Boddendijk
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 7:30 AM Mario Torre <neugens.limasoftware at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> A "mosquito" bug. Very irritating indeed :)
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Mario
>>> Il giorno gio 20 set 2018 alle ore 20:32 Alejandro Revilla
>>> <apr at jpos.org> ha scritto:
>>>> Why not 'nasty'? It's a nasty bug, after all.
>>>> 
>>>> My 2c.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> @apr <http://twitter.com/apr>
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 3:14 PM, Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> * Aleksey Shipilev:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> dev-hard implies "this requires hard development"?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Probably, the variant of "critical-for-dev-experience" to turn the
>>>>>> whole thing positive.
>>>>> I think the point is the internal impact.  Presumably it's like a test
>>>>> blocker, except that it's possible to work around once understood (but
>>>>> then the time waste has already occurred).
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not sure if such bugs are automatically urgent.  It's true that the
>>>>> fix will quickly pay for itself, but that doesn't really tell us much
>>>>> about priority and severity of the issue (and the difficulty of the fix
>>>>> 8-).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Florian
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> pgp key: http://subkeys.pgp.net/ PGP Key ID: 80F240CF
>>> Fingerprint: BA39 9666 94EC 8B73 27FA  FC7C 4086 63E3 80F2 40CF
>>> 
>>> Java Champion - Blog: http://neugens.wordpress.com - Twitter: @neugens
>>> Proud GNU Classpath developer: http://www.classpath.org/
>>> OpenJDK: http://openjdk.java.net/projects/caciocavallo/
>>> 
>>> Please, support open standards:
>>> http://endsoftpatents.org/
>>> 
> 



More information about the jdk-dev mailing list