Improving OpenJDK for FreeBSD

[Magnus Ihse Bursie]

On 2025-03-07 15:16, Thomas Stüfe wrote:

> @Magnus Ihse Bursie <mailto:magnus.ihse.bursie at oracle.com>
>
> Why would we need a JEP? That is a lot of unnecessary red tape. The 
> BSD port already exists. It is technically not a new port.

If we are to include it in the mainline, which is the goal here, a JEP 
is needed. We have only ever added or removed supported platforms in 
mainline with a JEP.

/Magnus

>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 8:19 PM Magnus Ihse Bursie 
> <magnus.ihse.bursie at oracle.com> wrote:
>
>     On 2025-03-06 19:38, Harald Eilertsen wrote:
>
>     > On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 05:32:50PM +0100, Magnus Ihse Bursie wrote:
>     >> On 2025-02-21 04:03, David Holmes wrote:
>     >>> I would not like to see it happen that way. If it is to happen
>     then I
>     >>> would prefer to see a project established and a project repo.
>     >> [...snip...]
>     >>
>     >> I think that could work as well, but I guess the difficult part
>     will be to
>     >> get reviewers from the relevant areas.
>     > I'm happy to go whichever way the OpenJDK community thinks is
>     the best
>     > approach. On advantage I see from our perspective with the separate
>     > project repo is that it may be easier to do a bit of
>     experimentation and
>     > testing different approaches before a merge into the mainline.
>     >
>     > It will still be possible to do a phased approach to merging the
>     changes
>     > into the mainline, so that should give any reviewers that didn't
>     come
>     > around for the first merges into the project repo a second chance to
>     > voice their concerns.
>
>     Formally, there is already a bsd-port project ("Port: BSD Project" is
>     the formal name), and according to the Census, Greg Lewis is the
>     Project
>     Lead. That means he has the authority to request that a repo be setup
>     for this project. I hope you have enough contact with him to ask
>     him to
>     send an email to ops at openjdk.org to request such a repo. Since the
>     cogs
>     of the OpenJDK administration moves slowly, I'd suggest trying get
>     him
>     to send such a request already; then the repo might be created in
>     time
>     for it to be actually needed.
>
>     Formally, I believe it would be good if he also nominates you as
>     member
>     of the bsd-port project. In time, especially if your position at
>     FreeBSD
>     is turning out to be long-term, I think it would be good (and likely
>     supported by Lewis) to have you moving into the Project Lead
>     position of
>     the BSD port project.
>
>     There is also an old mailing list associated with the project; we
>     might
>     consider moving this discussion over there. (Otoh, the porters-dev
>     list
>     is basically empty so I don't think we're overwhelming everyone by
>     keeping the discussion here as well.)
>
>
>     >
>     >> Also, I don't know if this has been said before, but this work
>     requires a
>     >> JEP.
>     > No, I haven't heard anything about that (I think). I'll read up
>     on it,
>     > and get back if I need a hand to hold on to :)
>
>     Have a look at e.g. JEP 388 (https://openjdk.org/jeps/388) which
>     introduced the Windows/aarch64 port. That was really about
>     combining an
>     existing OS and an existing CPU, but I'd say the amount of changes
>     required is similar to the BSD port, so I guess aiming at a JEP of
>     similar complexity level is fine.
>
>     /Magnus
>
>
>     >
>     > Take care!
>     > Harald
>
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