From volker.simonis at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 13:50:35 2018 From: volker.simonis at gmail.com (Volker Simonis) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 15:50:35 +0200 Subject: Question on the "Updates Project" processes Message-ID: Hi Rob, yesterday you've pushed the security fixes for JDK 10.0.2 into the jdk10u repository [2] but I haven't seen a "Request for approval" for these changes as this has been requested for the corresponding security updates in the jdk8u project [3]. Aren't such approvals required any more for the new updates project? Furthermore I've noticed that the "JDK Update Releases" page [4] contains some rough estimations for the planned releases (e.g. "Jul 2018" for jdk 10.0.2). But as these dates are not very precise, would it be possible to post some kind of "standardized" mails on this (or another, dedicated mailing list) which announce the final availability of each new update release (i.e. the landing of the security patches in the corresponding repositories). This would greatly simplify the work of down-stream projects which build/package OpenJDK update releases. Thank you and best regards, Volker [1] http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk-updates-changes/2018-July/000044.html [2] http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk-updates/jdk10u [3] http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk8u-dev/2018-July/007668.html [4] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk-updates/ From rob.mckenna at oracle.com Wed Jul 18 23:03:08 2018 From: rob.mckenna at oracle.com (Rob McKenna) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 00:03:08 +0100 Subject: Question on the "Updates Project" processes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180718230308.GB2306@vimes> Hi Volker: On 18/07/18 15:50, Volker Simonis wrote: > Hi Rob, > > yesterday you've pushed the security fixes for JDK 10.0.2 into the > jdk10u repository [2] but I haven't seen a "Request for approval" for > these changes as this has been requested for the corresponding > security updates in the jdk8u project [3]. Aren't such approvals > required any more for the new updates project? > I'm in two minds about this. We've moved away from mailing list approvals for the jdk-updates project and it seems redundant to add the labels to these issues when they've already been through the critical request process, but perhaps I need to rethink that. Leave that with me. > Furthermore I've noticed that the "JDK Update Releases" page [4] > contains some rough estimations for the planned releases (e.g. "Jul > 2018" for jdk 10.0.2). But as these dates are not very precise, would > it be possible to post some kind of "standardized" mails on this (or > another, dedicated mailing list) which announce the final availability > of each new update release (i.e. the landing of the security patches > in the corresponding repositories). This would greatly simplify the > work of down-stream projects which build/package OpenJDK update > releases. Yes, absolutely. I'll take an AI to send an automated notification when the security patches land in subsequent releases. -Rob > > Thank you and best regards, > Volker > > [1] http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk-updates-changes/2018-July/000044.html > [2] http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk-updates/jdk10u > [3] http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk8u-dev/2018-July/007668.html > [4] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk-updates/ From sean.coffey at oracle.com Thu Jul 19 11:22:31 2018 From: sean.coffey at oracle.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Se=E1n_Coffey?=) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:22:31 +0200 Subject: Question on the "Updates Project" processes In-Reply-To: <20180718230308.GB2306@vimes> References: <20180718230308.GB2306@vimes> Message-ID: On the final availability issue, it would also be useful to start using mercurial tags to identify GA releases/builds. A suggestion that was made last year. I've been pinging ops team about relaxing jcheck restrictions but no joy so far.. See: https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8180946 Sean. On 19 July 2018 01:03:08 GMT+02:00, Rob McKenna wrote: >Hi Volker: > >On 18/07/18 15:50, Volker Simonis wrote: >> Hi Rob, >> >> yesterday you've pushed the security fixes for JDK 10.0.2 into the >> jdk10u repository [2] but I haven't seen a "Request for approval" for >> these changes as this has been requested for the corresponding >> security updates in the jdk8u project [3]. Aren't such approvals >> required any more for the new updates project? >> > >I'm in two minds about this. We've moved away from mailing list >approvals for the jdk-updates project and it seems redundant to add the >labels to these issues when they've already been through the critical >request process, but perhaps I need to rethink that. Leave that with >me. > >> Furthermore I've noticed that the "JDK Update Releases" page [4] >> contains some rough estimations for the planned releases (e.g. "Jul >> 2018" for jdk 10.0.2). But as these dates are not very precise, would >> it be possible to post some kind of "standardized" mails on this (or >> another, dedicated mailing list) which announce the final >availability >> of each new update release (i.e. the landing of the security patches >> in the corresponding repositories). This would greatly simplify the >> work of down-stream projects which build/package OpenJDK update >> releases. > >Yes, absolutely. I'll take an AI to send an automated notification when >the security patches land in subsequent releases. > > -Rob > >> >> Thank you and best regards, >> Volker >> >> [1] >http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk-updates-changes/2018-July/000044.html >> [2] http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk-updates/jdk10u >> [3] >http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk8u-dev/2018-July/007668.html >> [4] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk-updates/ From martijnverburg at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 12:57:33 2018 From: martijnverburg at gmail.com (Martijn Verburg) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:57:33 +0100 Subject: Question on the "Updates Project" processes In-Reply-To: References: <20180718230308.GB2306@vimes> Message-ID: Yes please (he says peering through long lists of tags for 3 hours today) :-) Cheers, Martijn On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 at 13:33, Se?n Coffey wrote: > On the final availability issue, it would also be useful to start using > mercurial tags to identify GA releases/builds. A suggestion that was made > last year. I've been pinging ops team about relaxing jcheck restrictions > but no joy so far.. See: > > https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8180946 > > Sean. > > On 19 July 2018 01:03:08 GMT+02:00, Rob McKenna > wrote: > >Hi Volker: > > > >On 18/07/18 15:50, Volker Simonis wrote: > >> Hi Rob, > >> > >> yesterday you've pushed the security fixes for JDK 10.0.2 into the > >> jdk10u repository [2] but I haven't seen a "Request for approval" for > >> these changes as this has been requested for the corresponding > >> security updates in the jdk8u project [3]. Aren't such approvals > >> required any more for the new updates project? > >> > > > >I'm in two minds about this. We've moved away from mailing list > >approvals for the jdk-updates project and it seems redundant to add the > >labels to these issues when they've already been through the critical > >request process, but perhaps I need to rethink that. Leave that with > >me. > > > >> Furthermore I've noticed that the "JDK Update Releases" page [4] > >> contains some rough estimations for the planned releases (e.g. "Jul > >> 2018" for jdk 10.0.2). But as these dates are not very precise, would > >> it be possible to post some kind of "standardized" mails on this (or > >> another, dedicated mailing list) which announce the final > >availability > >> of each new update release (i.e. the landing of the security patches > >> in the corresponding repositories). This would greatly simplify the > >> work of down-stream projects which build/package OpenJDK update > >> releases. > > > >Yes, absolutely. I'll take an AI to send an automated notification when > >the security patches land in subsequent releases. > > > > -Rob > > > >> > >> Thank you and best regards, > >> Volker > >> > >> [1] > > > http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk-updates-changes/2018-July/000044.html > >> [2] http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk-updates/jdk10u > >> [3] > >http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk8u-dev/2018-July/007668.html > >> [4] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk-updates/ > From rob.mckenna at oracle.com Wed Jul 25 15:15:01 2018 From: rob.mckenna at oracle.com (Rob McKenna) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 16:15:01 +0100 Subject: [10u communication] End of maintenance & invitation for new maintainers Message-ID: <20180725151501.GC8398@vimes> I'm sending this mail to notify the community that the current maintainers intend to step down as maintainers for the JDK 10 Updates forest [1] at the end of September. This being the case we would like to invite prospective new maintainers to step forward at this point to ensure a smooth transition should they wish to maintain this forest beyond the end of September. Meawhile, we're in the process of preparing a jdk11u forest for this Project, which I and the other maintainers from Oracle plan to maintain going forward until we step down. I'll send an update to the alias once it's available. -Rob [1] http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk-updates/jdk10u