From agrawaln at us.ibm.com  Mon May  5 07:12:30 2008
From: agrawaln at us.ibm.com (Nitin Agrawal)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 19:42:30 +0530
Subject: jmx-dev Query: IPv6 Support in JMX SNMP APIs
Message-ID: <OFCB46A88D.D05554B4-ON87257440.004C25D9-65257440.004E9B06@us.ibm.com>


Hi

Apologies if it is a repeat question, but I could not find an answer to it
on http://openjdk.java.net/groups/jmx/ and in the mailing list archives.

Is IPv6 supported in JMX SNMP APIs (javax.management and sub-packages) with
JDK 1.5? I have searched on Sun's site and googled it, but could not get
any lead on it.

In our application, we are using these APIs which are only IPv4 compliant.
We are adding IPv6 support and hence this query.

If there is already IPv6 support available for 1.5, please point me to it.
If it is not, then:-
- Please let me know in case if it supported in JDK 1.6 or even here there
is no support for IPv6.

If there is not support anywhere, we need to go with DIY approach and
(re-)invent the wheel.

Will appreciate any thoughts/pointers on this.

Regards
-Nitin Agrawal
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From Daniel.Fuchs at Sun.COM  Mon May  5 09:27:28 2008
From: Daniel.Fuchs at Sun.COM (Daniel Fuchs)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 18:27:28 +0200
Subject: jmx-dev Query: IPv6 Support in JMX SNMP APIs
In-Reply-To: <OFCB46A88D.D05554B4-ON87257440.004C25D9-65257440.004E9B06@us.ibm.com>
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Message-ID: <481F3570.3060003@sun.com>

Hi,

Yes, IPv6 is supported.

You can specify IPv6 addresses in the ACL files, and you can
specify a specific interface to which to bind to (if you want
to bind to an interface which is not the default) using
the com.sun.management.snmp.interface property.

for instance, you can define:
com.sun.management.snmp.interface=::1

See <jdk-install>/jre/lib/management/snmp.acl.template
and <jdk-install>/jre/lib/management/management.properties

Hope this helps,

-- daniel
http://blogs.sun.com/jmxetc

Nitin Agrawal wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Apologies if it is a repeat question, but I could not find an answer to 
> it on http://openjdk.java.net/groups/jmx/ and in the mailing list archives.
> 
> *Is IPv6 supported* in JMX SNMP APIs (javax.management and sub-packages) 
> with JDK 1.5? I have searched on Sun's site and googled it, but could 
> not get any lead on it.
> 
> In our application, we are using these APIs which are only IPv4 
> compliant. We are adding IPv6 support and hence this query.
> 
> If there is already IPv6 support available for 1.5, please point me to 
> it. If it is not, then:-
> - Please let me know in case if it supported in JDK 1.6 or even here 
> there is no support for IPv6.
> 
> If there is not support anywhere, we need to go with DIY approach and 
> (re-)invent the wheel.
> 
> Will appreciate any thoughts/pointers on this.
> 
> Regards
> -Nitin Agrawal
> 



From agrawaln at us.ibm.com  Tue May  6 07:37:48 2008
From: agrawaln at us.ibm.com (Nitin Agrawal)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 08:37:48 -0600
Subject: jmx-dev Query: IPv6 Support in JMX SNMP APIs
In-Reply-To: <481F3570.3060003@sun.com>
References: <OFCB46A88D.D05554B4-ON87257440.004C25D9-65257440.004E9B06@us.ibm.com>
	<481F3570.3060003@sun.com>
Message-ID: <OFBB783FDB.9E018B0C-ON87257441.004DE217-65257441.0050EA1F@us.ibm.com>


Thanks Daniel for your response.

It overall does not address my concerns/query. I guess I have not given
sufficient data to you in my query.

We are using javax.management.snmp APIs. In our Management application, we
want to parse the OID data (from a SNMP GET request or a trap), where in
the OID type is an IPAddress and the value can be either IPv4 or IPv6
address. To represent this we are using "?javax.management.snmp.
SnmpIpAddress" class. This supports IPv4 addresses only.

I also checked on the Open DMK site:
https://opendmk.dev.java.net/download/index.html#opendmk-1.0-b02 and
downloaded - opendmk-1.0-b02-src-dual-01-Oct-2007_19-17-46.zip

The class - OpenDMK-src\src\snmp_manager\com\sun\management\snmp
\SnmpIpAddress.java  (Attached here: (See attached file:
SnmpIpAddress.java) ) does not have IPv6 support.

Are you aware of any implementation of such APIs which has got IPv6
support ?

If I see the J2SE JMX API specs @
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/jmx/spec.html,
"javax.management.snmp" is not there. Looks like formal support for SNMP
APIs has been dropped by sun.

Regards
-Nitin





                                                                           
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Hi,

Yes, IPv6 is supported.

You can specify IPv6 addresses in the ACL files, and you can
specify a specific interface to which to bind to (if you want
to bind to an interface which is not the default) using
the com.sun.management.snmp.interface property.

for instance, you can define:
com.sun.management.snmp.interface=::1

See <jdk-install>/jre/lib/management/snmp.acl.template
and <jdk-install>/jre/lib/management/management.properties

Hope this helps,

-- daniel
http://blogs.sun.com/jmxetc.

Nitin Agrawal wrote:
> Hi
>
> Apologies if it is a repeat question, but I could not find an answer to
> it on http://openjdk.java.net/groups/jmx/ and in the mailing list
archives.
>
> *Is IPv6 supported* in JMX SNMP APIs (javax.management and sub-packages)
> with JDK 1.5? I have searched on Sun's site and googled it, but could
> not get any lead on it.
>
> In our application, we are using these APIs which are only IPv4
> compliant. We are adding IPv6 support and hence this query.
>
> If there is already IPv6 support available for 1.5, please point me to
> it. If it is not, then:-
> - Please let me know in case if it supported in JDK 1.6 or even here
> there is no support for IPv6.
>
> If there is not support anywhere, we need to go with DIY approach and
> (re-)invent the wheel.
>
> Will appreciate any thoughts/pointers on this.
>
> Regards
> -Nitin Agrawal
>

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From Daniel.Fuchs at Sun.COM  Tue May  6 09:09:26 2008
From: Daniel.Fuchs at Sun.COM (Daniel Fuchs)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 18:09:26 +0200
Subject: jmx-dev Query: IPv6 Support in JMX SNMP APIs
In-Reply-To: <OFBB783FDB.9E018B0C-ON87257441.004DE217-65257441.0050EA1F@us.ibm.com>
References: <OFCB46A88D.D05554B4-ON87257440.004C25D9-65257440.004E9B06@us.ibm.com>
	<481F3570.3060003@sun.com>
	<OFBB783FDB.9E018B0C-ON87257441.004DE217-65257441.0050EA1F@us.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <482082B6.7040309@sun.com>

Hi Nitin, all,

Nitin Agrawal wrote:
> We are using javax.management.snmp APIs. 

The javax.management.snmp package is an old deprecated
package name. The SNMP APIs where candidate for
inclusion in JMX, but they never made it to the final
JMX specification.
Since then the javax.management.snmp packages have been
renamed into com.sun.management.snmp, which is provided
by JDMK 5.1 or OpenDMK.

> In our Management application, 
> we want to parse the OID data (from a SNMP GET request or a trap), where 
> in the OID type is an IPAddress and the value can be either IPv4 or IPv6 
> address. To represent this we are using 
> "javax.management.snmp.SnmpIpAddress" class. This supports IPv4 
> addresses only.

SnmpIpAddress corresponds to the IpAddress syntax defined in RFC 1155.
ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc1155.txt

It is  a 4 byte Octet String and can only be used to transport
IPv4 address. An object using the IpAddress syntax cannot be used
to hold an IPv6 address.

> I also checked on the Open DMK site: 
> https://opendmk.dev.java.net/download/index.html#opendmk-1.0-b02 and 
> downloaded - opendmk-1.0-b02-src-dual-01-Oct-2007_19-17-46.zip
> 
> The class - 
> OpenDMK-src\src\snmp_manager\com\sun\management\snmp\SnmpIpAddress.java 
> (Attached here: /(See attached file: SnmpIpAddress.java)/ ) does not 
> have IPv6 support.

It can't. This is not a limitation of the API - it's a limitation of
of the SNMP definitions in your MIB.

> Are you aware of any implementation of such APIs which has got IPv6 
> support ?

You need to upgrade your MIB and use an object based on one
of the textual conventions defined in the INET-ADDRESS-MIB
(RFC 4001)
ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc4001.txt

> If I see the J2SE JMX API specs @ 
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/jmx/spec.html, 
> "javax.management.snmp" is not there. Looks like formal support for SNMP 
> APIs has been dropped by sun.

Not at all. As explained these APIs are exported by Java DMK 5.1 and
OpenDMK. They re not part of the Java platform.
See here for more details:
http://blogs.sun.com/jmxetc/entry/what_is_the_jvm_snmp

Hope this helps,

-- daniel
http://blogs.sun.com/jmxetc

> 
> Regards
> -Nitin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Inactive hide details for Daniel Fuchs ---05/05/2008 10:12:58 
> PM---Hi,Daniel Fuchs ---05/05/2008 10:12:58 PM---Hi,
> 
>                         *Daniel Fuchs <Daniel.Fuchs at Sun.COM>*
>                         Sent by: Daniel.Fuchs at Sun.COM
> 
>                         05/05/2008 09:57 PM
>                         Please respond to
>                         Daniel.Fuchs at Sun.COM
> 
> 	
> 
> To
> 	
> Nitin Agrawal/San Francisco/Contr/IBM at IBMUS
> 
> cc
> 	
> jmx-dev <jmx-dev at openjdk.java.net>, Ken Ellinwood/Los Angeles/IBM at IBMUS
> 
> Subject
> 	
> Re: jmx-dev Query: IPv6 Support in JMX SNMP APIs
> 
> 	
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, IPv6 is supported.
> 
> You can specify IPv6 addresses in the ACL files, and you can
> specify a specific interface to which to bind to (if you want
> to bind to an interface which is not the default) using
> the com.sun.management.snmp.interface property.
> 
> for instance, you can define:
> com.sun.management.snmp.interface=::1
> 
> See <jdk-install>/jre/lib/management/snmp.acl.template
> and <jdk-install>/jre/lib/management/management.properties
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> -- daniel
> http://blogs.sun.com/jmxetc
> 
> Nitin Agrawal wrote:
>  > Hi
>  >
>  > Apologies if it is a repeat question, but I could not find an answer to
>  > it on http://openjdk.java.net/groups/jmx/ and in the mailing list 
> archives.
>  >
>  > *Is IPv6 supported* in JMX SNMP APIs (javax.management and sub-packages)
>  > with JDK 1.5? I have searched on Sun's site and googled it, but could
>  > not get any lead on it.
>  >
>  > In our application, we are using these APIs which are only IPv4
>  > compliant. We are adding IPv6 support and hence this query.
>  >
>  > If there is already IPv6 support available for 1.5, please point me to
>  > it. If it is not, then:-
>  > - Please let me know in case if it supported in JDK 1.6 or even here
>  > there is no support for IPv6.
>  >
>  > If there is not support anywhere, we need to go with DIY approach and
>  > (re-)invent the wheel.
>  >
>  > Will appreciate any thoughts/pointers on this.
>  >
>  > Regards
>  > -Nitin Agrawal
>  >
> 
> 



From agrawaln at us.ibm.com  Wed May  7 05:43:09 2008
From: agrawaln at us.ibm.com (Nitin Agrawal)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 18:13:09 +0530
Subject: jmx-dev Query: IPv6 Support in JMX SNMP APIs
In-Reply-To: <482082B6.7040309@sun.com>
References: <OFCB46A88D.D05554B4-ON87257440.004C25D9-65257440.004E9B06@us.ibm.com>
	<481F3570.3060003@sun.com>
	<OFBB783FDB.9E018B0C-ON87257441.004DE217-65257441.0050EA1F@us.ibm.com>
	<482082B6.7040309@sun.com>
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Thanks Daniel

It certainly has helped me. Clarified many things. :-)

Thanks for your clarifications.

Regards
-Nitin






                                                                           
             Daniel Fuchs                                                  
             <Daniel.Fuchs at Sun                                             
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             Daniel.Fuchs at Sun.         Francisco/Contr/IBM at IBMUS           
             COM                                                        cc 
                                       jmx-dev <jmx-dev at openjdk.java.net>, 
                                       Ken Ellinwood/Los Angeles/IBM at IBMUS 
             05/06/2008 09:39                                      Subject 
             PM                        Re: jmx-dev Query: IPv6 Support in  
                                       JMX SNMP APIs                       
                                                                           
             Please respond to                                             
             Daniel.Fuchs at Sun.                                             
                    COM                                                    
                                                                           
                                                                           




Hi Nitin, all,

Nitin Agrawal wrote:
> We are using javax.management.snmp APIs.

The javax.management.snmp package is an old deprecated
package name. The SNMP APIs where candidate for
inclusion in JMX, but they never made it to the final
JMX specification.
Since then the javax.management.snmp packages have been
renamed into com.sun.management.snmp, which is provided
by JDMK 5.1 or OpenDMK.

> In our Management application,
> we want to parse the OID data (from a SNMP GET request or a trap), where
> in the OID type is an IPAddress and the value can be either IPv4 or IPv6
> address. To represent this we are using
> "javax.management.snmp.SnmpIpAddress" class. This supports IPv4
> addresses only.

SnmpIpAddress corresponds to the IpAddress syntax defined in RFC 1155.
ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc1155.txt

It is  a 4 byte Octet String and can only be used to transport
IPv4 address. An object using the IpAddress syntax cannot be used
to hold an IPv6 address.

> I also checked on the Open DMK site:
> https://opendmk.dev.java.net/download/index.html#opendmk-1.0-b02 and
> downloaded - opendmk-1.0-b02-src-dual-01-Oct-2007_19-17-46.zip
>
> The class -
> OpenDMK-src\src\snmp_manager\com\sun\management\snmp\SnmpIpAddress.java
> (Attached here: /(See attached file: SnmpIpAddress.java)/ ) does not
> have IPv6 support.

It can't. This is not a limitation of the API - it's a limitation of
of the SNMP definitions in your MIB.

> Are you aware of any implementation of such APIs which has got IPv6
> support ?

You need to upgrade your MIB and use an object based on one
of the textual conventions defined in the INET-ADDRESS-MIB
(RFC 4001)
ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc4001.txt

> If I see the J2SE JMX API specs @
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/jmx/spec.html,
> "javax.management.snmp" is not there. Looks like formal support for SNMP
> APIs has been dropped by sun.

Not at all. As explained these APIs are exported by Java DMK 5.1 and
OpenDMK. They re not part of the Java platform.
See here for more details:
http://blogs.sun.com/jmxetc/entry/what_is_the_jvm_snmp

Hope this helps,

-- daniel
http://blogs.sun.com/jmxetc

>
> Regards
> -Nitin
>
>
>
>
> Inactive hide details for Daniel Fuchs ---05/05/2008 10:12:58
> PM---Hi,Daniel Fuchs ---05/05/2008 10:12:58 PM---Hi,
>
>                         *Daniel Fuchs <Daniel.Fuchs at Sun.COM>*
>                         Sent by: Daniel.Fuchs at Sun.COM
>
>                         05/05/2008 09:57 PM
>                         Please respond to
>                         Daniel.Fuchs at Sun.COM
>
>
>
> To
>
> Nitin Agrawal/San Francisco/Contr/IBM at IBMUS
>
> cc
>
> jmx-dev <jmx-dev at openjdk.java.net>, Ken Ellinwood/Los Angeles/IBM at IBMUS
>
> Subject
>
> Re: jmx-dev Query: IPv6 Support in JMX SNMP APIs
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Yes, IPv6 is supported.
>
> You can specify IPv6 addresses in the ACL files, and you can
> specify a specific interface to which to bind to (if you want
> to bind to an interface which is not the default) using
> the com.sun.management.snmp.interface property.
>
> for instance, you can define:
> com.sun.management.snmp.interface=::1
>
> See <jdk-install>/jre/lib/management/snmp.acl.template
> and <jdk-install>/jre/lib/management/management.properties
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> -- daniel
> http://blogs.sun.com/jmxetc>
>
> Nitin Agrawal wrote:
>  > Hi
>  >
>  > Apologies if it is a repeat question, but I could not find an answer
to
>  > it on http://openjdk.java.net/groups/jmx/> and in the mailing list
> archives.
>  >
>  > *Is IPv6 supported* in JMX SNMP APIs (javax.management and
sub-packages)
>  > with JDK 1.5? I have searched on Sun's site and googled it, but could
>  > not get any lead on it.
>  >
>  > In our application, we are using these APIs which are only IPv4
>  > compliant. We are adding IPv6 support and hence this query.
>  >
>  > If there is already IPv6 support available for 1.5, please point me to
>  > it. If it is not, then:-
>  > - Please let me know in case if it supported in JDK 1.6 or even here
>  > there is no support for IPv6.
>  >
>  > If there is not support anywhere, we need to go with DIY approach and
>  > (re-)invent the wheel.
>  >
>  > Will appreciate any thoughts/pointers on this.
>  >
>  > Regards
>  > -Nitin Agrawal
>  >
>
>

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From Eamonn.McManus at Sun.COM  Thu May 15 02:59:57 2008
From: Eamonn.McManus at Sun.COM (Eamonn McManus)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 11:59:57 +0200
Subject: jmx-dev hg: jdk7/tl/jdk: 6701459: Synchronization bug pattern
 found in javax.management.relation.RelationService
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From Daniel.Fuchs at Sun.COM  Thu May 29 08:49:40 2008
From: Daniel.Fuchs at Sun.COM (Daniel Fuchs)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:49:40 +0200
Subject: jmx-dev Review requested: 6592586: RequiredModelMBean prints a
 WARNING message when calling getAttributes() for a non-existing attr
Message-ID: <483ED094.1020805@sun.com>

Also fixed several occurrences of the WARNING level....

-- daniel
http://blogs.sun.com/jmxetc

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From Eamonn.McManus at Sun.COM  Fri May 30 04:02:05 2008
From: Eamonn.McManus at Sun.COM (Eamonn McManus)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 13:02:05 +0200
Subject: jmx-dev Review requested: 6592586: RequiredModelMBean prints a
 WARNING message when calling getAttributes() for a non-existing attr
In-Reply-To: <483ED094.1020805@sun.com>
References: <483ED094.1020805@sun.com>
Message-ID: <483FDEAD.3090702@sun.com>

Reviewed OK. Level.FINE might be more appropriate than Level.FINER for 
exceptions from writeToLog.

?amonn McManus   JMX Spec Lead   http://weblogs.java.net/blog/emcmanus/



Daniel Fuchs wrote:
> Also fixed several occurrences of the WARNING level....
>
> -- daniel
> http://blogs.sun.com/jmxetc
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From Daniel.Fuchs at Sun.COM  Fri May 30 05:14:44 2008
From: Daniel.Fuchs at Sun.COM (Daniel Fuchs)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 14:14:44 +0200
Subject: jmx-dev Review requested: 6592586: RequiredModelMBean prints a
 WARNING message when calling getAttributes() for a non-existing attr
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Eamonn McManus wrote:
> Reviewed OK. Level.FINE might be more appropriate than Level.FINER for 
> exceptions from writeToLog.

OK, good feedback. I will make the modifications.

> 
> ?amonn McManus   JMX Spec Lead   http://weblogs.java.net/blog/emcmanus/
> 
> 
> 
> Daniel Fuchs wrote:
>> Also fixed several occurrences of the WARNING level....
>>
>> -- daniel
>> http://blogs.sun.com/jmxetc
>>
>> The attachment(s) "" has been removed from this email because it 
>> contained a type of attachment known to carry viruses and other 
>> harmful software. The attachment has been removed for your protection, 
>> as well as that of Sun's network.
>> If you know the sender and were expecting the attachment, please 
>> contact the sender and have them re-send the file using the .zip 
>> format. If the sender is unknown or if the email looks unusual or is 
>> unexpected, please delete it now.
>> Additional information: http://antivirus.central.sun.com/ 
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