Effectively final effective?

[John Nilsson]

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Reinier Zwitserloot <
reinier at zwitserloot.com> wrote:

> John, you're making the argument that something is so natural it doesn't
> need explaining.... by explaining it.
>
> As long as you need to explain it, it's obviously not the "non-surprising,
> obvious" behaviour you think it is.
>
OTOH the fact that you have a different mental model than I do not make it a
"crackpot" argument. It is simply different, and the only way to know for
sure is to make some kind of survey. I suspect that my mental model of the
semantics will prove to be more common than yours. But right now I have no
other proof than pointing out examples of how current Java semantics already
match my mental model.

BR,
John