From dougfelt at gmail.com  Mon Dec  1 10:55:45 2008
From: dougfelt at gmail.com (Douglas Felt)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:55:45 -0800
Subject: status
Message-ID: <896f15550812011055t55105280x6b3249ad52e3b472@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all.  This is just a note to let folks know what the current status is.

I've submitted my public key to openjdk.java.net and will soon
populate the locale-enhancement repository from the jdk repo.  We will
then be able to experiment with changes to it.

It's not clear to me whether I need to set up a 'gate' repository.  It
doesn't seem likely that anyone but us will be using this repository
and we ought to be able to manage with just the one.  If anyone knows
different, please let me know.

I know from past experience that Sun has a test runner that can be
used to run tests in the test directory.  Has this been made available
to users of openjdk so that we can run these tests?  We will want to
run the Locale tests at a minimum after any changes to the Locale
class.

Doug


From locale-enhancement-dev at openjdk.java.net  Mon Dec  1 11:33:03 2008
From: locale-enhancement-dev at openjdk.java.net (Discussion of proposal to enhance java.util.Locale)
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:33:03 -0800
Subject: [loc-en-dev] status
In-Reply-To: <896f15550812011055t55105280x6b3249ad52e3b472@mail.gmail.com>
References: <896f15550812011055t55105280x6b3249ad52e3b472@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49343BEF.5030104@Sun.COM>

Hi Doug,

Thank you for bootstrapping the project!

As to the test harness, I believe that you are referring to 'jtreg', 
which is now an open source project:

http://openjdk.java.net/jtreg/

Thanks,
Naoto

Douglas Felt wrote:
> Hello all.  This is just a note to let folks know what the current status is.
> 
> I've submitted my public key to openjdk.java.net and will soon
> populate the locale-enhancement repository from the jdk repo.  We will
> then be able to experiment with changes to it.
> 
> It's not clear to me whether I need to set up a 'gate' repository.  It
> doesn't seem likely that anyone but us will be using this repository
> and we ought to be able to manage with just the one.  If anyone knows
> different, please let me know.
> 
> I know from past experience that Sun has a test runner that can be
> used to run tests in the test directory.  Has this been made available
> to users of openjdk so that we can run these tests?  We will want to
> run the Locale tests at a minimum after any changes to the Locale
> class.
> 
> Doug


-- 
Naoto Sato


From locale-enhancement-dev at openjdk.java.net  Mon Dec  1 11:47:47 2008
From: locale-enhancement-dev at openjdk.java.net (Discussion of proposal to enhance java.util.Locale)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:47:47 -0800
Subject: [loc-en-dev] status
In-Reply-To: <896f15550812011055t55105280x6b3249ad52e3b472@mail.gmail.com>
References: <896f15550812011055t55105280x6b3249ad52e3b472@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OFB8341DC0.CE261758-ON86257512.006C6D49-88257512.006CBA39@us.ibm.com>

As I understand it (which is highly questionable), the 'gate' is put in
place so that any controls, such as enforcing ticket number/state
compliance, etc, can be done without breaking atomicity of commits.

Mercurial's model is: Commit first, verify later.  So, some change could be
committed, and then while the test is being run, another user could check
out the changes, merge, and commit an additional change.   If the first
check fails, Mercurial tries to say, 'oops, sorry it didn't work out' and
roll back the original change.

This is no longer possible if a derivative change is checked in.

Anyways, that's what I understood as to why a gate was used.

-Steven




                                                                                        
  From:       "Douglas Felt" <dougfelt at gmail.com>                                       
                                                                                        
  To:         locale-enhancement-dev at openjdk.java.net                                   
                                                                                        
  Date:       12/01/2008 11:02 AM                                                       
                                                                                        
  Subject:    status                                                                    
                                                                                        





Hello all.  This is just a note to let folks know what the current status
is.

I've submitted my public key to openjdk.java.net and will soon
populate the locale-enhancement repository from the jdk repo.  We will
then be able to experiment with changes to it.

It's not clear to me whether I need to set up a 'gate' repository.  It
doesn't seem likely that anyone but us will be using this repository
and we ought to be able to manage with just the one.  If anyone knows
different, please let me know.

I know from past experience that Sun has a test runner that can be
used to run tests in the test directory.  Has this been made available
to users of openjdk so that we can run these tests?  We will want to
run the Locale tests at a minimum after any changes to the Locale
class.

Doug





From locale-enhancement-dev at openjdk.java.net  Mon Dec  1 14:05:25 2008
From: locale-enhancement-dev at openjdk.java.net (loc-en-dev)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:05:25 -0800
Subject: jtreg and build question
Message-ID: <896f15550812011405w5aa484a1v5f910900450b3b51@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Naoto.

I've downloaded jtreg and verified that I can use it to test changes
to Locale.java.

I have two more questions, if you don't mind.

1) jtreg takes about five minutes to run the 13 Locale tests, which
I'd like to run quickly as a sanity check.  I suspect there's a better
way to invoke it than the ways I have tried.  Currently I cd to the
root of my local jdk7 repo and try this

../jtreg/linux/bin/jtreg -jdk:build/linux-i586 test/java/util/Locale

or this

../jtreg/linux/bin/jtreg -jdk:build/linux-i586 -dir:test/java/util/Locale .

or this

cd test/java/util/Locale
~/openjdk/jtreg/linux/bin/jtreg -jdk:../../../../build/linux-i586 .

All report on the 13 tests I ran as well as the 3,000+ tests I
skipped.  I expect scanning all the tests is what's taking up all the
time.  There must be a way to restrict the scan to only one (or a few)
subdirectories.  Is there?

2) recompiling also takes a long time.  currently to build the
fastdebug target I need to start from the root makefile under
jdk/make.  I can build the 'all' target under jdk/java/make, but I'd
prefer to build everything with the same options.  Is there a
combination of location and target that is better for quick rebuilds?

On the other hand, Locale is such as basic class that it might be
better to just rebuild everything all the time.

What do the Sun i18n folks do?

Doug

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Naoto Sato <Naoto.Sato at sun.com> wrote:
> Hi Doug,
>
> Thank you for bootstrapping the project!
>
> As to the test harness, I believe that you are referring to 'jtreg', which
> is now an open source project:
>
> http://openjdk.java.net/jtreg/
>
> Thanks,
> Naoto


From locale-enhancement-dev at openjdk.java.net  Mon Dec  1 15:23:35 2008
From: locale-enhancement-dev at openjdk.java.net (locale-enhancement-dev at openjdk.java.net)
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:23:35 -0800
Subject: [loc-en-dev] jtreg and build question
In-Reply-To: <896f15550812011405w5aa484a1v5f910900450b3b51@mail.gmail.com>
References: <896f15550812011405w5aa484a1v5f910900450b3b51@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <493471F7.9030408@Sun.COM>

Douglas Felt wrote:
> Thanks Naoto.
> 
> I've downloaded jtreg and verified that I can use it to test changes
> to Locale.java.
> 
> I have two more questions, if you don't mind.
> 
> 1) jtreg takes about five minutes to run the 13 Locale tests, which
> I'd like to run quickly as a sanity check.  I suspect there's a better
> way to invoke it than the ways I have tried.  Currently I cd to the
> root of my local jdk7 repo and try this
> 
> ../jtreg/linux/bin/jtreg -jdk:build/linux-i586 test/java/util/Locale
> 
> or this
> 
> ../jtreg/linux/bin/jtreg -jdk:build/linux-i586 -dir:test/java/util/Locale .
> 
> or this
> 
> cd test/java/util/Locale
> ~/openjdk/jtreg/linux/bin/jtreg -jdk:../../../../build/linux-i586 .
> 
> All report on the 13 tests I ran as well as the 3,000+ tests I
> skipped.  I expect scanning all the tests is what's taking up all the
> time.  There must be a way to restrict the scan to only one (or a few)
> subdirectories.  Is there?

Hmm.  When I execute the tests specifying the target directory, I only 
get results only for tests under that directory (in this case, those 13 
tests under test/java/util/Locale).  I haven't used the open source 
version of 'jtreg' yet, so there could be some differences.

> 
> 2) recompiling also takes a long time.  currently to build the
> fastdebug target I need to start from the root makefile under
> jdk/make.  I can build the 'all' target under jdk/java/make, but I'd
> prefer to build everything with the same options.  Is there a
> combination of location and target that is better for quick rebuilds?

I usually run 'gnumake' under jdk/make/java/java to build Locale.java, 
which finishes pretty quickly.

> 
> On the other hand, Locale is such as basic class that it might be
> better to just rebuild everything all the time.

Unlike the classes in java.lang, such as Character which is built quite 
early in the build process and affects other areas, Locale is pretty 
much safe for just building itself.  Not 100% sure, though.

BTW, the 'From' field of this list always is 
'locale-enhancement-dev at openjdk.java.net'.  This can be set to the 
poster's address by disabling the 'anonymous_list' general option.

HTH,
Naoto

> 
> What do the Sun i18n folks do?
> 
> Doug
> 
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Naoto Sato <Naoto.Sato at sun.com> wrote:
>> Hi Doug,
>>
>> Thank you for bootstrapping the project!
>>
>> As to the test harness, I believe that you are referring to 'jtreg', which
>> is now an open source project:
>>
>> http://openjdk.java.net/jtreg/
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Naoto


-- 
Naoto Sato


From dougfelt at google.com  Mon Dec  1 15:33:08 2008
From: dougfelt at google.com (Doug Felt)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:33:08 -0800
Subject: [loc-en-dev] test
Message-ID: <146f39a80812011533k1dbd9dbex51f909a1a33b54d4@mail.gmail.com>

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From y.umaoka at gmail.com  Tue Dec  2 12:59:37 2008
From: y.umaoka at gmail.com (Yoshito Umaoka)
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:59:37 -0500
Subject: [loc-en-dev] external project site page
Message-ID: <4935A1B9.7050703@gmail.com>

I created a new google site for this project 
<http://sites.google.com/site/openjdklocale/>.  The google doc page 
previously contained the initial design proposal was moved to a page in 
this site <http://sites.google.com/site/openjdklocale/design-specification>.

-Yoshito


From dougfelt at google.com  Thu Dec  4 16:45:34 2008
From: dougfelt at google.com (Doug Felt)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:45:34 -0800
Subject: [loc-en-dev] repository created
Message-ID: <146f39a80812041645iaa19440lf928f7d5f670392d@mail.gmail.com>

I pushed b40 of jdk7/jdk7/jdk to locale-enhancement/locale-enhancement on
openjdk.  There was a bit of a hiccup with the push but it seems to have
completed ok.  I have yet to pull it into a local repo to verify.

Please remember that this is not a full forest but just the jdk.  You will
need a bootstrap copy of jdk7 to build it.  Right now, of course, there's no
point since it's just a copy of jdk7.

Doug
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