Rethinking Exceptions in the Context of Loom and Structured Concurrency

Robert Engels robaho at me.com
Fri Dec 19 21:53:29 UTC 2025


Maybe you need to reread the other thread. Eric’s tone was clearly dismissive of the work of Java engineers, and attempting to blanket change something at the 11th hour is also highly dismissive.

Then responding with "Respectfully, I think we’re talking past each other a bit.” because I happened to state I felt Rust’s error handling was horrible - nothing towards Eric whatsoever. So then labelling my comments as “talking past him” to what degree of respectfulness is that?

You can use measured words and still be highly disrespectful - that was my point. It’s the intent not the words.

> On Dec 19, 2025, at 3:40 PM, Robert Engels <robaho at me.com> wrote:
> 
> You’re right - putting “respectfully” in front of something doesn’t make it respectful. Thanks for recognizing this.
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2025, at 3:37 PM, Brian Goetz <brian.goetz at oracle.com> wrote:
>> 
>> There's no call for this, and putting "respectfully" on front of it doesn't make it respectful.  Eric has been unfailingly constructive, polite, and measured in this thread.  (In fact, all but one of the participants on this thread have been.)  
>> 
>> On 12/19/2025 1:59 PM, Robert Engels wrote:
>>> Respectfully, can you give it a rest.
>> 
>> 
> 

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