<html><body><p style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">Hello loom-dev team,</p>
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<p style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">I would like to express my gratitude for the work being done on Project Loom. It's an exciting project with a lot of potential. I have some questions related to its performance that I would appreciate some clarification on.</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal;min-height:14px"><br></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">I recently came across a benchmark presentation by Alan Bateman at Devoxx<<a href="https://youtu.be/XF4XZlPZc_c?si=-Qp2PampTbNGj3a5">https://youtu.be/XF4XZlPZc_c?si=-Qp2PampTbNGj3a5</a>>, where the Helidon Nima framework demonstrated better performance results compared to a reactive framework. However, when I examined the Plaintext benchmark (specifically focusing on Netty and Undertow, which benchmark only plaintext), I noticed that Nima, which operates entirely on virtual threads, failed to outperform even the blocking Undertow. Additionally, I conducted tests with Tomcat and Jetty using Loom's executor, and they also did not exhibit significant improvements compared to a reactive stack. Perhaps I should ask the Helidon team, but my question is, is this the expected performance level for Project Loom, or can we anticipate better performance in the future?</p>
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<p style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">Furthermore, I took a closer look at the Poller implementation<<a href="https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/master/src/java.base/share/classes/sun/nio/ch/Poller.java#L436">https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/master/src/java.base/share/classes/sun/nio/ch/Poller.java#L436</a>>, and I noticed that it utilizes only one thread (by default) for both read and write polling. I'm curious why there's only one thread, and wouldn't it be more efficient to have pollers matching the number of CPU cores for optimal performance?</p>
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<p style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">I look forward to your insights and guidance regarding these performance concerns. Your expertise and feedback would be greatly appreciated.</p>
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