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Hi Masoud,</div>
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As you can see in JEP 499 (<a href="https://openjdk.org/jeps/499">https://openjdk.org/jeps/499</a>), there is no change in the 4<sup>th</sup> preview.</div>
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Originally, it was planned to make STS an interface (see <a href="https://github.com/openjdk/loom/commit/3996f6c9e930e941076a33a1b58ebc7e475285c8">
https://github.com/openjdk/loom/commit/3996f6c9e930e941076a33a1b58ebc7e475285c8</a>) in the 4<sup>th</sup> preview; Alan seems to have deferred these changes to a 5<sup>th</sup> preview per
<a href="https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/pull/21934">https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/pull/21934</a>, most likely due to various cleanup after the integration of JEP 486, the removal of Security Manager.</div>
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Regarding Java 25: Note that according to the tip-and-tail release model (<a href="https://openjdk.org/jeps/14">https://openjdk.org/jeps/14</a>), stability/compatibility and features are in a tradeoff - expecting exactly the feature you want from the tip to
be available in a stability/compatibility tail is wishful thinking, especially for time-based release projects like the JDK. In the meantime, JDK has introduced enhancements such as the Class-File API (<a href="https://openjdk.org/jeps/484">https://openjdk.org/jeps/484</a>)
to make updating to new Java releases (25.0.2 -> 26) as simple as updating to a new security patch in an LTS (25.0.2 -> 25.0.3), so the worries about staying on an LTS for ease of security updates can finally go away.</div>
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Regards,</div>
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Chen Liang</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 2, 2024 2:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chen Liang <chen.l.liang@oracle.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> loom-dev@openjdk.org <loom-dev@openjdk.org>; rfscholte@apache.org <rfscholte@apache.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [External] : Re: Naming of StructuredTaskScope.Subtask.State</font>
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<div dir="ltr">Is the 5th preview already decided or we might get the GA with Java 25?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 9:16 PM Chen Liang <<a href="mailto:chen.l.liang@oracle.com">chen.l.liang@oracle.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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I agree; I recommend changing SUCCESS to SUCCESSFUL in the 5<sup>th</sup> preview.</div>
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<div id="x_m_-3837289136682484942divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> loom-dev <<a href="mailto:loom-dev-retn@openjdk.org" target="_blank">loom-dev-retn@openjdk.org</a>> on behalf of Robert
Scholte <<a href="mailto:rfscholte@apache.org" target="_blank">rfscholte@apache.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 1, 2024 1:11 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Naming of StructuredTaskScope.Subtask.State</font>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">Currently the states have been named Failed, Success and Unavailable, which are grammatically different types.</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">I think there are discussions if states should be nouns or a verbs, but I don’t think it should be a mixture.</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">I would expect Success + Failure or Succeeded + Failed.</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Maybe there are even better options.</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">Thanks,</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Robert Scholte</span></p>
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