getting quartz fonts & Java 6 sound effects

[Jeff Palmer]

Alexander,
Thanks.  On the chance that something might be done to MIDI or instruments,  would this also be noticed in other operating systems?  I always thought the Windows instruments did not sound as good as Apples, but thought it could be attributed to different OS or specific hardware.  With these 2 on the same machine & OS, it is a definite apples to apples comparison.

As far as fonts go,  most apps will be hard pressed to notice the difference.  I am doing some very custom things which exaggerates the difference.  The sub pixel rendering off comment gave me a few idea, thanks.  Do not think text rendering hints are going to work with controls like JLabel, though.  Wouldn't you have to :
wrapper it
override paintComponent()
cast to Graphics2D, and change text rendering hints
call super.paintComponent()

But maybe it would not be too bad if you could just over-ride paint() of your JFrame, & do above.  Are hints transferred in Graphics.create(x, y, w, h) that is called in paintChildren?  JavaDoc is silent on that.  Looking at source code, eventually an abstract create() is called.  Does not look good.

Thanks,
Jeff Palmer


On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Alexander Zuev wrote:

> Paul,
> 
> On 10/9/12 14:04, Paul Taylor wrote:
>> On 09/10/2012 10:43, Alexander Zuev wrote:
>>> Jeff,
>>> 
>>>  unfortunately we don't support quartz for the on-screen rendering in Java 7 so UseQuartz=true does not
>>> do any difference. As for the sound - using the JavaSoundDemo from the Apple Developer Extras i
>>> definitely noticed a difference in the sound of the Synth Strings 2 instrument - Apple version has much
>>> more complexity. I will raise that concern with our media expert.
>>> 
>>> With best regards,
>>> Alexander Zuev
>>> 
>> Is the lack of Quatrz support a temporary decision or permanent, could you give us the reasoning behind this ?
> I'm afraid it's permanent. The reason is the different architecture of the AWT components in Java 6 and Java 7. On Java 6
> AWT components were backed by the native controls who had options to be rendered differently whereas on Java 7
> they are backed by software rendered controls (basically Swing components with Aqua LaF) and turning the UseQuartz
> option on and off does not change rendering process.
> 
> BTW, as far as i can see the main difference between quartz and cocoa renderings are that in quartz mode fonts are rendered with LCD subpixel rendering off. The similar results might  be achieved by changing text rendering hints in Java 7 - see included with Java 7 demo Font2DTest for the different hints and the results they take on the the rendering of various fonts.
> 
> With best regards,
> Alexander Zuev
>> 
>> Paul
>>> On 10/9/12 24:44, Jeff Palmer wrote:
>>>> I might be getting a little picky, but has anyone reported that fonts and sounds are inferior to Java 6? Using JWS, I specify apple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true for 1.6. I am using the default font:
>>>> 
>>>> com.apple.laf.AquaFonts$DerivedUIResourceFont[family=Lucida Grande,name=Lucida Grande,style=plain,size=13]
>>>> 
>>>> I guess I could pull out the UseQuartz and make them look the same, but thought I should at least send this note.
>>>> 
>>>> Sound wise,  I put in some sound effects to correspond to some events.  The Java 6 versions are just so much better, especially for the SYNTH_STRINGS_2 instrument, index 51.
>>>> 
>>>> This is not going to stop implementation, but I was just wondering.
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff Palmer
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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