On Jul 5, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Kustaa Nyholm wrote: > On 05/07/2013 11:45, "Stephen Winnall" <steve at winnall.ch> wrote: >> >> Any Mac Java client that wants to have a chance of market acceptance will >> use them extensively. > > Yes, I'll second that, without them the acceptance among apple users is > poor to nil. +1 -hendrik