From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Sun Jan  6 07:00:34 2013
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 15:00:34 +0000
Subject: OpenJDK builds: Ant build issues with jdk (netbeans) sub-projects -
	awt2d, j2se and jarzip
In-Reply-To: <50E8D2DB.6090206@oracle.com>
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Hi,

I have been recommended to post my below query to your mailing list, if it
is the right place to post. If not could you recommend who would be best
placed to answer the below questions.

Thanks.

Regards,
Mani

On 01/05/2013 04:05 PM, Mani Sarkar wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have made some progress with the below three sub-projects, and have
> successfully built jarzip. But still get new error messages with awt2d and
> j2se.
>
> I answered my own question about the -source 8, its basically expecting the
> images/j2sdk-image to be assigned to the respective ALT_... variables via
> the make.options property in build.properties for all three projects.
>
> Unfortunately I wasn't able to build swing via the .../javax/swing/ folder
> where the required make file(s) are present.
>
> But my other queries still stand, if you can throw some light on them, it
> would be help make progress with these builds using the new build system.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Mani
>
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Mani Sarkar <sadhak001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Hi All,
>>
>> I have furthered my pursuits with building *OpenJDK projects *by building
>>
>> the JDK sub-projects like swing, etc... but came across issues with
>> building 3 different projects which I wasn't able to build due
>> configuration issues. These sub-projects are located under the netbeans
>> subfolder under the .../jdk/make/ folder.
>>
>> They all are getting compiled for version 8 with the below args (which is
>> leading to a build failure):
>>
>>     -source 8 -target 8
>>
>> *jdk/awt2d*
>>
>> https://github.com/**neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/**blob/master/**
>> EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/**Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.**log<https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.log>
>>
>> *jdk/j2se*
>>
>> https://github.com/**neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/**blob/master/**
>> EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/**Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log<https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log>
>>
>> *jdk/jarzip*
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/**neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/**blob/master/**
>> EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/**Logs/jdk/jarzip/**jarzipAntBuild.log<https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/jarzip/jarzipAntBuild.log>
>>
>> Where is this version configuration set for these projects, that I can
>> change either through file changes or alternative build.properties setting
>> changes? My other question is why are there no make files available for
>> the
>> jdk sub-projects (i.e. *awt2d, j2se,* etc...) except for under *
>> javax/swing* has make files to build this project instead Ant build.xml
>>
>> files are available. Is it possible to hook these ant files with the new
>> build system, instead of only being able to build the sub-projects via the
>> old build system (using the ALT_... variables via make.options).
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
>> mani
>>
>> --
>> Twitter: @theNeomatrix369
>> Blog: http://neomatrix369.wordpress.**com<http://neomatrix369.wordpress.com>
>> <http://neomatrxi369.**wordpress.com <http://neomatrxi369.wordpress.com>>
>>
>> *Don't chase success, rather aim for "Excellence", and success will come
>> chasing after you!*
>>
>>
>
>



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From Ulf.Zibis at CoSoCo.de  Tue Jan  8 05:11:12 2013
From: Ulf.Zibis at CoSoCo.de (Ulf Zibis)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 14:11:12 +0100
Subject: Fwd: OpenJDK builds: Ant build issues with jdk (netbeans)
	sub-projects - awt2d, j2se and jarzip
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References: <CAGHtMWkiaTEtB6yxri=UvPNuNthk0EikGgE=DG6DT3-GnyqhxA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGHtMWmN4rygQJst7jV8yMX1iyO1JhALWJsCZQ6v-jO1JQx3nw@mail.gmail.com>
	<50E8D2DB.6090206@oracle.com>
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Message-ID: <50EC1AF0.8070804@CoSoCo.de>

Hi Mani,

nb-projects-dev at openjdk.java.net should be the right place, but there is "little" trafic.
This keeps me wondering too since years, as NetBeans is an Oracle Product. It's a mystery why it 
seems so hard to have NetBeans working for JDK developement workflow.

So I think it's OK to additionally put your question here in core-libs.

-Ulf


Am 08.01.2013 00:21, schrieb Mani Sarkar:
> Hi,
>
> I have been recommended to post my below query to your mailing list, if it
> is the right place to post. If not could you recommend who would be best
> placed to answer the below questions.
>
> I couldn't find an appropriate mailing list for 'jarzip' (as it is
> part of langtools)
> - any suggestions? It would be great if you could answer my query about it
> too.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Mani
>
> On 01/05/2013 04:05 PM, Mani Sarkar wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have made some progress with the below three sub-projects, and have
>> successfully built jarzip. But still get new error messages with awt2d and
>> j2se.
>>
>> I answered my own question about the -source 8, its basically expecting the
>> images/j2sdk-image to be assigned to the respective ALT_... variables via
>> the make.options property in build.properties for all three projects.
>>
>> Unfortunately I wasn't able to build swing via the .../javax/swing/ folder
>> where the required make file(s) are present.
>>
>> But my other queries still stand, if you can throw some light on them, it
>> would be help make progress with these builds using the new build system.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mani
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Mani Sarkar <sadhak001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   Hi All,
>>> I have furthered my pursuits with building *OpenJDK projects *by building
>>>
>>> the JDK sub-projects like swing, etc... but came across issues with
>>> building 3 different projects which I wasn't able to build due
>>> configuration issues. These sub-projects are located under the netbeans
>>> subfolder under the .../jdk/make/ folder.
>>>
>>> They all are getting compiled for version 8 with the below args (which is
>>> leading to a build failure):
>>>
>>>      -source 8 -target 8
>>>
>>> *jdk/awt2d*
>>>
>>> https://github.com/**neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/**blob/master/**
>>> EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/**Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.**log<https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.log>
>>>
>>> *jdk/j2se*
>>>
>>> https://github.com/**neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/**blob/master/**
>>> EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/**Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log<https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log>
>>>
>>> *jdk/jarzip*
>>>
>>>
>>> https://github.com/**neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/**blob/master/**
>>> EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/**Logs/jdk/jarzip/**jarzipAntBuild.log<https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/jarzip/jarzipAntBuild.log>
>>>
>>> Where is this version configuration set for these projects, that I can
>>> change either through file changes or alternative build.properties setting
>>> changes? My other question is why are there no make files available for
>>> the
>>> jdk sub-projects (i.e. *awt2d, j2se,* etc...) except for under *
>>> javax/swing* has make files to build this project instead Ant build.xml
>>>
>>> files are available. Is it possible to hook these ant files with the new
>>> build system, instead of only being able to build the sub-projects via the
>>> old build system (using the ALT_... variables via make.options).
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> mani
>>>
>>> --
>>> Twitter: @theNeomatrix369
>>> Blog: http://neomatrix369.wordpress.**com<http://neomatrix369.wordpress.com>
>>> <http://neomatrxi369.**wordpress.com <http://neomatrxi369.wordpress.com>>
>>>
>>> *Don't chase success, rather aim for "Excellence", and success will come
>>> chasing after you!*
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


From anthony.petrov at oracle.com  Wed Jan  9 05:58:30 2013
From: anthony.petrov at oracle.com (Anthony Petrov)
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:58:30 +0400
Subject: OpenJDK builds: Ant build issues with jdk (netbeans) sub-projects
	- awt2d, j2se and jarzip
In-Reply-To: <CAGHtMWnXRA6Z7cL_e+ASDB2Pjx8sTFmYS4A9qqf7QSSJQfKDSQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGHtMWkiaTEtB6yxri=UvPNuNthk0EikGgE=DG6DT3-GnyqhxA@mail.gmail.com>	<CAGHtMWmN4rygQJst7jV8yMX1iyO1JhALWJsCZQ6v-jO1JQx3nw@mail.gmail.com>	<50E8D2DB.6090206@oracle.com>
	<CAGHtMWnXRA6Z7cL_e+ASDB2Pjx8sTFmYS4A9qqf7QSSJQfKDSQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50ED7786.2000607@oracle.com>

Hi Mani,

Not many developers really use NetBeans when working on JDK code. And 
only a few (if any) actually build it from NetBeans. Since the main 
build system for JDK is makefiles-based, obviously the netbeans projects 
are almost never updated when something happens to the way the code is 
built. Thus the projects become outdated.

The new build system (configure/make-based, see the makefiles/ directory 
in JDK) is very fast. It does a very good job with incremental builds, 
so I suggest to use it for your purposes.

--
best regards,
Anthony

On 1/6/2013 19:00, Mani Sarkar wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have been recommended to post my below query to your mailing list, if 
> it is the right place to post. If not could you recommend who would be 
> best placed to answer the below questions.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Regards,
> Mani
> 
> On 01/05/2013 04:05 PM, Mani Sarkar wrote:
> 
>     Hi all,
> 
>     I have made some progress with the below three sub-projects, and have
>     successfully built jarzip. But still get new error messages with
>     awt2d and
>     j2se.
> 
>     I answered my own question about the -source 8, its basically
>     expecting the
>     images/j2sdk-image to be assigned to the respective ALT_...
>     variables via
>     the make.options property in build.properties for all three projects.
> 
>     Unfortunately I wasn't able to build swing via the .../javax/swing/
>     folder
>     where the required make file(s) are present.
> 
>     But my other queries still stand, if you can throw some light on
>     them, it
>     would be help make progress with these builds using the new build
>     system.
> 
>     Thanks.
> 
>     Regards,
>     Mani
> 
>     On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Mani Sarkar <sadhak001 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:sadhak001 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>         Hi All,
> 
>         I have furthered my pursuits with building *OpenJDK projects *by
>         building
> 
>         the JDK sub-projects like swing, etc... but came across issues with
>         building 3 different projects which I wasn't able to build due
>         configuration issues. These sub-projects are located under the
>         netbeans
>         subfolder under the .../jdk/make/ folder.
> 
>         They all are getting compiled for version 8 with the below args
>         (which is
>         leading to a build failure):
> 
>             -source 8 -target 8
> 
>         *jdk/awt2d*
> 
>         https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.__log
>         <https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.log>
> 
>         *jdk/j2se*
> 
>         https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log
>         <https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log>
> 
>         *jdk/jarzip*
> 
> 
>         https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/jarzip/__jarzipAntBuild.log
>         <https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/jarzip/jarzipAntBuild.log>
> 
>         Where is this version configuration set for these projects, that
>         I can
>         change either through file changes or alternative
>         build.properties setting
>         changes? My other question is why are there no make files
>         available for the
>         jdk sub-projects (i.e. *awt2d, j2se,* etc...) except for under *
>         javax/swing* has make files to build this project instead Ant
>         build.xml
> 
>         files are available. Is it possible to hook these ant files with
>         the new
>         build system, instead of only being able to build the
>         sub-projects via the
>         old build system (using the ALT_... variables via make.options).
> 
>         Thanks.
> 
>         Regards,
>         mani
> 
>         --
>         Twitter: @theNeomatrix369
>         Blog: http://neomatrix369.wordpress.__com
>         <http://neomatrix369.wordpress.com><http://neomatrxi369.__wordpress.com
>         <http://neomatrxi369.wordpress.com>>
> 
>         *Don't chase success, rather aim for "Excellence", and success
>         will come
>         chasing after you!*
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Twitter: @theNeomatrix369
> Blog: http://neomatrix369.wordpress.com <http://neomatrxi369.wordpress.com>
> 
> */Don't chase success, rather aim for "Excellence", and success will 
> come chasing after you!/*

From sadhak001 at gmail.com  Wed Jan  9 16:31:10 2013
From: sadhak001 at gmail.com (Mani Sarkar)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 00:31:10 +0000
Subject: OpenJDK builds: Ant build issues with jdk (netbeans) sub-projects
	- awt2d, j2se and jarzip
In-Reply-To: <50ED7786.2000607@oracle.com>
References: <CAGHtMWkiaTEtB6yxri=UvPNuNthk0EikGgE=DG6DT3-GnyqhxA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGHtMWmN4rygQJst7jV8yMX1iyO1JhALWJsCZQ6v-jO1JQx3nw@mail.gmail.com>
	<50E8D2DB.6090206@oracle.com>
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Hi Anthony,

Thanks for responding to my post.

I'm aware of the make files available for other projects and sub-projects
from within the OpenJDK. But the reason I was requesting help on building
the Awt2d and J2se as they form part of the JDK project and it would be
handy to be able to build them separately (irrespective of the netbeans
projects) to the whole JDK project itself. Given that the total build time
for the JDK is longer than just building its underlying components -
developers would love working on separate components in IDEs of their
choice.

I'm working on wiki instructions to help with the Adopt OpenJDK initiative
which would assist adopters to build these projects via the CLI or from
withiin Eclipse.

At this stage I'm updating existing instructions to build OpenJDK and its
sub-projects in Eclipse and CLI - I have been able to build most of the
sub-projects except the two sub-projects under the *jdk* folder.Besides
moving the make files of these projects to the new build system would also
benefit future adopters to directly load them up in their IDE and amend the
underlying code and see the build results in the console.

There is a potential for a larger number of users in our group to do just
this and more hence I'm involved in the process.  Any hint or help would be
most appreciated, as I think it might just be a matter of configuration - I
did read about sustaining these build.xml files for future use on a couple
of other mailing lists.

Thanks.

Regards,
Mani

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Anthony Petrov <anthony.petrov at oracle.com>wrote:

> Hi Mani,
>
> Not many developers really use NetBeans when working on JDK code. And only
> a few (if any) actually build it from NetBeans. Since the main build system
> for JDK is makefiles-based, obviously the netbeans projects are almost
> never updated when something happens to the way the code is built. Thus the
> projects become outdated.
>
> The new build system (configure/make-based, see the makefiles/ directory
> in JDK) is very fast. It does a very good job with incremental builds, so I
> suggest to use it for your purposes.
>
> --
> best regards,
> Anthony
>
>
> On 1/6/2013 19:00, Mani Sarkar wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have been recommended to post my below query to your mailing list, if
>> it is the right place to post. If not could you recommend who would be best
>> placed to answer the below questions.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mani
>>
>> On 01/05/2013 04:05 PM, Mani Sarkar wrote:
>>
>>     Hi all,
>>
>>     I have made some progress with the below three sub-projects, and have
>>     successfully built jarzip. But still get new error messages with
>>     awt2d and
>>     j2se.
>>
>>     I answered my own question about the -source 8, its basically
>>     expecting the
>>     images/j2sdk-image to be assigned to the respective ALT_...
>>     variables via
>>     the make.options property in build.properties for all three projects.
>>
>>     Unfortunately I wasn't able to build swing via the .../javax/swing/
>>     folder
>>     where the required make file(s) are present.
>>
>>     But my other queries still stand, if you can throw some light on
>>     them, it
>>     would be help make progress with these builds using the new build
>>     system.
>>
>>     Thanks.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     Mani
>>
>>     On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Mani Sarkar <sadhak001 at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:sadhak001 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi All,
>>
>>         I have furthered my pursuits with building *OpenJDK projects *by
>>         building
>>
>>         the JDK sub-projects like swing, etc... but came across issues
>> with
>>         building 3 different projects which I wasn't able to build due
>>         configuration issues. These sub-projects are located under the
>>         netbeans
>>         subfolder under the .../jdk/make/ folder.
>>
>>         They all are getting compiled for version 8 with the below args
>>         (which is
>>         leading to a build failure):
>>
>>             -source 8 -target 8
>>
>>         *jdk/awt2d*
>>
>>         https://github.com/__**neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__**
>> blob/master/__**EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__**
>> Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild._**_log<https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.__log>
>>         <https://github.com/**neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/**blob/master/**
>> EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/**Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.**log<https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.log>
>> >
>>
>>         *jdk/j2se*
>>
>>         https://github.com/__**neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__**
>> blob/master/__**EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__**
>> Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log<https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log>
>>         <https://github.com/**neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/**blob/master/**
>> EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/**Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log<https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log>
>> **>
>>
>>         *jdk/jarzip*
>>
>>
>>         https://github.com/__**neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__**
>> blob/master/__**EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__**Logs/jdk/jarzip/__**
>> jarzipAntBuild.log<https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/jarzip/__jarzipAntBuild.log>
>>
>>         <https://github.com/**neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/**blob/master/**
>> EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/**Logs/jdk/jarzip/**jarzipAntBuild.log<https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/jarzip/jarzipAntBuild.log>
>> >
>>
>>         Where is this version configuration set for these projects, that
>>         I can
>>         change either through file changes or alternative
>>         build.properties setting
>>         changes? My other question is why are there no make files
>>         available for the
>>         jdk sub-projects (i.e. *awt2d, j2se,* etc...) except for under *
>>         javax/swing* has make files to build this project instead Ant
>>         build.xml
>>
>>         files are available. Is it possible to hook these ant files with
>>         the new
>>         build system, instead of only being able to build the
>>         sub-projects via the
>>         old build system (using the ALT_... variables via make.options).
>>
>>         Thanks.
>>
>>         Regards,
>>         mani
>>
>>         --
>>         Twitter: @theNeomatrix369
>>         Blog: http://neomatrix369.wordpress.**__com
>>         <http://neomatrix369.**wordpress.com<http://neomatrix369.wordpress.com>
>> ><http://**neomatrxi369. <http://neomatrxi369.>__wordpress.com
>>
>>         <http://neomatrxi369.**wordpress.com<http://neomatrxi369.wordpress.com>
>> >>
>>
>>         *Don't chase success, rather aim for "Excellence", and success
>>         will come
>>         chasing after you!*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Twitter: @theNeomatrix369
>> Blog: http://neomatrix369.wordpress.**com<http://neomatrix369.wordpress.com><
>> http://neomatrxi369.**wordpress.com <http://neomatrxi369.wordpress.com>>
>>
>> */Don't chase success, rather aim for "Excellence", and success will come
>> chasing after you!/*
>>
>


-- 
Twitter: @theNeomatrix369
Blog: http://neomatrix369.wordpress.com <http://neomatrxi369.wordpress.com>

*Don't chase success, rather aim for "Excellence", and success will come
chasing after you!*
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From anthony.petrov at oracle.com  Thu Jan 10 06:25:36 2013
From: anthony.petrov at oracle.com (Anthony Petrov)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:25:36 +0400
Subject: OpenJDK builds: Ant build issues with jdk (netbeans) sub-projects
	- awt2d, j2se and jarzip
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Hi Mani,

I realize this, and in fact the (now) old build system should have allow 
you to build e.g. AWT separately by invoking make from make/java/awt, 
make/sun/awt, and on X11 - make/sun/xawt directories.

However, the new build system does not generally support this kind of 
partial builds. For any "sub"-projects. You can only invoke make for the 
whole JDK in the top-level directory. This is how it is designed to 
work. Note that this new build system is able to resolve dependencies 
very quickly, and as a result incremental builds (i.e. when you change 
just a few files) should take very small amount of time. Even building 
the whole JDK for the first time takes significantly less time than with 
the old build system.

Given that we're switching to the new build system real soon, and the 
old build system will be deprecated and removed eventually, I strongly 
recommend you to try out the new one. You may want to clone the 
jdk8/build forest where it is fully implemented at the moment and play 
with it.

--
best regards,
Anthony

On 01/10/13 04:31, Mani Sarkar wrote:
> Hi Anthony,
>
> Thanks for responding to my post.
>
> I'm aware of the make files available for other projects and
> sub-projects from within the OpenJDK. But the reason I was requesting
> help on building the Awt2d and J2se as they form part of the JDK project
> and it would be handy to be able to build them separately (irrespective
> of the netbeans projects) to the whole JDK project itself. Given that
> the total build time for the JDK is longer than just building its
> underlying components - developers would love working on separate
> components in IDEs of their choice.
>
> I'm working on wiki instructions to help with the Adopt OpenJDK
> initiative which would assist adopters to build these projects via the
> CLI or from withiin Eclipse.
>
> At this stage I'm updating existing instructions to build OpenJDK and
> its sub-projects in Eclipse and CLI - I have been able to build most of
> the sub-projects except the two sub-projects under the /jdk/
> folder.Besides moving the make files of these projects to the new build
> system would also benefit future adopters to directly load them up in
> their IDE and amend the underlying code and see the build results in the
> console.
>
> There is a potential for a larger number of users in our group to do
> just this and more hence I'm involved in the process.  Any hint or help
> would be most appreciated, as I think it might just be a matter of
> configuration - I did read about sustaining these build.xml files for
> future use on a couple of other mailing lists.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Mani
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Anthony Petrov
> <anthony.petrov at oracle.com <mailto:anthony.petrov at oracle.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Mani,
>
>     Not many developers really use NetBeans when working on JDK code.
>     And only a few (if any) actually build it from NetBeans. Since the
>     main build system for JDK is makefiles-based, obviously the netbeans
>     projects are almost never updated when something happens to the way
>     the code is built. Thus the projects become outdated.
>
>     The new build system (configure/make-based, see the makefiles/
>     directory in JDK) is very fast. It does a very good job with
>     incremental builds, so I suggest to use it for your purposes.
>
>     --
>     best regards,
>     Anthony
>
>
>     On 1/6/2013 19:00, Mani Sarkar wrote:
>
>         Hi,
>
>         I have been recommended to post my below query to your mailing
>         list, if it is the right place to post. If not could you
>         recommend who would be best placed to answer the below questions.
>
>         Thanks.
>
>         Regards,
>         Mani
>
>         On 01/05/2013 04:05 PM, Mani Sarkar wrote:
>
>              Hi all,
>
>              I have made some progress with the below three
>         sub-projects, and have
>              successfully built jarzip. But still get new error messages
>         with
>              awt2d and
>              j2se.
>
>              I answered my own question about the -source 8, its basically
>              expecting the
>              images/j2sdk-image to be assigned to the respective ALT_...
>              variables via
>              the make.options property in build.properties for all three
>         projects.
>
>              Unfortunately I wasn't able to build swing via the
>         .../javax/swing/
>              folder
>              where the required make file(s) are present.
>
>              But my other queries still stand, if you can throw some
>         light on
>              them, it
>              would be help make progress with these builds using the new
>         build
>              system.
>
>              Thanks.
>
>              Regards,
>              Mani
>
>              On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Mani Sarkar
>         <sadhak001 at gmail.com <mailto:sadhak001 at gmail.com>
>         <mailto:sadhak001 at gmail.com <mailto:sadhak001 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
>                  Hi All,
>
>                  I have furthered my pursuits with building *OpenJDK
>         projects *by
>                  building
>
>                  the JDK sub-projects like swing, etc... but came across
>         issues with
>                  building 3 different projects which I wasn't able to
>         build due
>                  configuration issues. These sub-projects are located
>         under the
>                  netbeans
>                  subfolder under the .../jdk/make/ folder.
>
>                  They all are getting compiled for version 8 with the
>         below args
>                  (which is
>                  leading to a build failure):
>
>                      -source 8 -target 8
>
>                  *jdk/awt2d*
>
>         https://github.com/____neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/____blob/master/____EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/____Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.____log
>         <https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.__log>
>         <https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.__log
>         <https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.log>>
>
>                  *jdk/j2se*
>
>         https://github.com/____neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/____blob/master/____EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/____Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log
>         <https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log>
>         <https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log
>         <https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log>__>
>
>                  *jdk/jarzip*
>
>
>         https://github.com/____neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/____blob/master/____EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/____Logs/jdk/jarzip/____jarzipAntBuild.log
>         <https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/jarzip/__jarzipAntBuild.log>
>
>         <https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/jarzip/__jarzipAntBuild.log
>         <https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/jarzip/jarzipAntBuild.log>>
>
>                  Where is this version configuration set for these
>         projects, that
>                  I can
>                  change either through file changes or alternative
>                  build.properties setting
>                  changes? My other question is why are there no make files
>                  available for the
>                  jdk sub-projects (i.e. *awt2d, j2se,* etc...) except
>         for under *
>                  javax/swing* has make files to build this project
>         instead Ant
>                  build.xml
>
>                  files are available. Is it possible to hook these ant
>         files with
>                  the new
>                  build system, instead of only being able to build the
>                  sub-projects via the
>                  old build system (using the ALT_... variables via
>         make.options).
>
>                  Thanks.
>
>                  Regards,
>                  mani
>
>                  --
>                  Twitter: @theNeomatrix369
>                  Blog: http://neomatrix369.wordpress.____com
>         <http://neomatrix369.__wordpress.com
>         <http://neomatrix369.wordpress.com>><http://__neomatrxi369.
>         <http://neomatrxi369.>__wordpress.com <http://wordpress.com>
>
>         <http://neomatrxi369.__wordpress.com
>         <http://neomatrxi369.wordpress.com>>>
>
>                  *Don't chase success, rather aim for "Excellence", and
>         success
>                  will come
>                  chasing after you!*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>         --
>         Twitter: @theNeomatrix369
>         Blog: http://neomatrix369.wordpress.__com
>         <http://neomatrix369.wordpress.com>
>         <http://neomatrxi369.__wordpress.com
>         <http://neomatrxi369.wordpress.com>>
>
>         */Don't chase success, rather aim for "Excellence", and success
>         will come chasing after you!/*
>
>
>
>
> --
> Twitter: @theNeomatrix369
> Blog: http://neomatrix369.wordpress.com <http://neomatrxi369.wordpress.com>
>
> */Don't chase success, rather aim for "Excellence", and success will
> come chasing after you!/*

From Ulf.Zibis at CoSoCo.de  Thu Jan 10 06:51:51 2013
From: Ulf.Zibis at CoSoCo.de (Ulf Zibis)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:51:51 +0100
Subject: OpenJDK builds: Ant build issues with jdk (netbeans) sub-projects
	- awt2d, j2se and jarzip
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Hi Mani,

please note the conversation at the end of this post and my reference to my older attempts to solve 
your issue.

Additionally please note these threads:
http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/nb-projects-dev/2009-April/thread.html
http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/nb-projects-dev/2010-June/000096.html
http://openjdk.5641.n7.nabble.com/OpenJDK-Netbeans-and-Ant-Build-Scripts-f102175.html

-Ulf


Am 10.01.2013 01:31, schrieb Mani Sarkar:
> Hi Anthony,
>
> Thanks for responding to my post.
>
> I'm aware of the make files available for other projects and sub-projects from within the OpenJDK. 
> But the reason I was requesting help on building the Awt2d and J2se as they form part of the JDK 
> project and it would be handy to be able to build them separately (irrespective of the netbeans 
> projects) to the whole JDK project itself. Given that the total build time for the JDK is longer 
> than just building its underlying components - developers would love working on separate 
> components in IDEs of their choice.
>
> I'm working on wiki instructions to help with the Adopt OpenJDK initiative which would assist 
> adopters to build these projects via the CLI or from withiin Eclipse.
>
> At this stage I'm updating existing instructions to build OpenJDK and its sub-projects in Eclipse 
> and CLI - I have been able to build most of the sub-projects except the two sub-projects under the 
> /jdk/ folder.Besides moving the make files of these projects to the new build system would also 
> benefit future adopters to directly load them up in their IDE and amend the underlying code and 
> see the build results in the console.
>
> There is a potential for a larger number of users in our group to do just this and more hence I'm 
> involved in the process.  Any hint or help would be most appreciated, as I think it might just be 
> a matter of configuration - I did read about sustaining these build.xml files for future use on a 
> couple of other mailing lists.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Mani
>


Am 09.01.2013 18:32, schrieb Mike Duigou:
> On Jan 9 2013, at 02:41 , Ulf Zibis wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> at the moment, I do not have any environment to create changesets or webrevs, will take some time.
> No rush. I may also get to this. My suggestion was motivated towards getting your OpenJDK commit count up.
>
>> Mentioning the NB list in README would be a good idea.
>>
>> Some time ago, I tried some enhancements here: https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/attachment.cgi?id=125&action=diff
>> Search for "/make/netbeans/common/".
> I will look for these changes.
>
>> Have a nice day,
> Happy New Year to you as well!
>
> Mike
>
>

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From mike.duigou at oracle.com  Thu Jan 10 09:16:48 2013
From: mike.duigou at oracle.com (Mike Duigou)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:16:48 -0800
Subject: OpenJDK builds: Ant build issues with jdk (netbeans) sub-projects
	- awt2d, j2se and jarzip
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I've made a few patches over the last couple of years to the NetBeans projects mostly to make editting code and tests within the IDE easier but haven't ever spent much effort trying to build from within the IDE. I have been anticipating doing some work to see if building from within the IDE can be done more simply with the new build infrastructure once it is in place. As Anthony suggest though this will likely be full builds of all of OpenJDK.

Mike

On Jan 10 2013, at 06:25 , Anthony Petrov wrote:

> Hi Mani,
> 
> I realize this, and in fact the (now) old build system should have allow you to build e.g. AWT separately by invoking make from make/java/awt, make/sun/awt, and on X11 - make/sun/xawt directories.
> 
> However, the new build system does not generally support this kind of partial builds. For any "sub"-projects. You can only invoke make for the whole JDK in the top-level directory. This is how it is designed to work. Note that this new build system is able to resolve dependencies very quickly, and as a result incremental builds (i.e. when you change just a few files) should take very small amount of time. Even building the whole JDK for the first time takes significantly less time than with the old build system.
> 
> Given that we're switching to the new build system real soon, and the old build system will be deprecated and removed eventually, I strongly recommend you to try out the new one. You may want to clone the jdk8/build forest where it is fully implemented at the moment and play with it.
> 
> --
> best regards,
> Anthony
> 
> On 01/10/13 04:31, Mani Sarkar wrote:
>> Hi Anthony,
>> 
>> Thanks for responding to my post.
>> 
>> I'm aware of the make files available for other projects and
>> sub-projects from within the OpenJDK. But the reason I was requesting
>> help on building the Awt2d and J2se as they form part of the JDK project
>> and it would be handy to be able to build them separately (irrespective
>> of the netbeans projects) to the whole JDK project itself. Given that
>> the total build time for the JDK is longer than just building its
>> underlying components - developers would love working on separate
>> components in IDEs of their choice.
>> 
>> I'm working on wiki instructions to help with the Adopt OpenJDK
>> initiative which would assist adopters to build these projects via the
>> CLI or from withiin Eclipse.
>> 
>> At this stage I'm updating existing instructions to build OpenJDK and
>> its sub-projects in Eclipse and CLI - I have been able to build most of
>> the sub-projects except the two sub-projects under the /jdk/
>> folder.Besides moving the make files of these projects to the new build
>> system would also benefit future adopters to directly load them up in
>> their IDE and amend the underlying code and see the build results in the
>> console.
>> 
>> There is a potential for a larger number of users in our group to do
>> just this and more hence I'm involved in the process.  Any hint or help
>> would be most appreciated, as I think it might just be a matter of
>> configuration - I did read about sustaining these build.xml files for
>> future use on a couple of other mailing lists.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Mani
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Anthony Petrov
>> <anthony.petrov at oracle.com <mailto:anthony.petrov at oracle.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>    Hi Mani,
>> 
>>    Not many developers really use NetBeans when working on JDK code.
>>    And only a few (if any) actually build it from NetBeans. Since the
>>    main build system for JDK is makefiles-based, obviously the netbeans
>>    projects are almost never updated when something happens to the way
>>    the code is built. Thus the projects become outdated.
>> 
>>    The new build system (configure/make-based, see the makefiles/
>>    directory in JDK) is very fast. It does a very good job with
>>    incremental builds, so I suggest to use it for your purposes.
>> 
>>    --
>>    best regards,
>>    Anthony
>> 
>> 
>>    On 1/6/2013 19:00, Mani Sarkar wrote:
>> 
>>        Hi,
>> 
>>        I have been recommended to post my below query to your mailing
>>        list, if it is the right place to post. If not could you
>>        recommend who would be best placed to answer the below questions.
>> 
>>        Thanks.
>> 
>>        Regards,
>>        Mani
>> 
>>        On 01/05/2013 04:05 PM, Mani Sarkar wrote:
>> 
>>             Hi all,
>> 
>>             I have made some progress with the below three
>>        sub-projects, and have
>>             successfully built jarzip. But still get new error messages
>>        with
>>             awt2d and
>>             j2se.
>> 
>>             I answered my own question about the -source 8, its basically
>>             expecting the
>>             images/j2sdk-image to be assigned to the respective ALT_...
>>             variables via
>>             the make.options property in build.properties for all three
>>        projects.
>> 
>>             Unfortunately I wasn't able to build swing via the
>>        .../javax/swing/
>>             folder
>>             where the required make file(s) are present.
>> 
>>             But my other queries still stand, if you can throw some
>>        light on
>>             them, it
>>             would be help make progress with these builds using the new
>>        build
>>             system.
>> 
>>             Thanks.
>> 
>>             Regards,
>>             Mani
>> 
>>             On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Mani Sarkar
>>        <sadhak001 at gmail.com <mailto:sadhak001 at gmail.com>
>>        <mailto:sadhak001 at gmail.com <mailto:sadhak001 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> 
>>                 Hi All,
>> 
>>                 I have furthered my pursuits with building *OpenJDK
>>        projects *by
>>                 building
>> 
>>                 the JDK sub-projects like swing, etc... but came across
>>        issues with
>>                 building 3 different projects which I wasn't able to
>>        build due
>>                 configuration issues. These sub-projects are located
>>        under the
>>                 netbeans
>>                 subfolder under the .../jdk/make/ folder.
>> 
>>                 They all are getting compiled for version 8 with the
>>        below args
>>                 (which is
>>                 leading to a build failure):
>> 
>>                     -source 8 -target 8
>> 
>>                 *jdk/awt2d*
>> 
>>        https://github.com/____neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/____blob/master/____EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/____Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.____log
>>        <https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.__log>
>>        <https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.__log
>>        <https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.log>>
>> 
>>                 *jdk/j2se*
>> 
>>        https://github.com/____neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/____blob/master/____EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/____Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log
>>        <https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log>
>>        <https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log
>>        <https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log>__>
>> 
>>                 *jdk/jarzip*
>> 
>> 
>>        https://github.com/____neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/____blob/master/____EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/____Logs/jdk/jarzip/____jarzipAntBuild.log
>>        <https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/jarzip/__jarzipAntBuild.log>
>> 
>>        <https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/jarzip/__jarzipAntBuild.log
>>        <https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/jarzip/jarzipAntBuild.log>>
>> 
>>                 Where is this version configuration set for these
>>        projects, that
>>                 I can
>>                 change either through file changes or alternative
>>                 build.properties setting
>>                 changes? My other question is why are there no make files
>>                 available for the
>>                 jdk sub-projects (i.e. *awt2d, j2se,* etc...) except
>>        for under *
>>                 javax/swing* has make files to build this project
>>        instead Ant
>>                 build.xml
>> 
>>                 files are available. Is it possible to hook these ant
>>        files with
>>                 the new
>>                 build system, instead of only being able to build the
>>                 sub-projects via the
>>                 old build system (using the ALT_... variables via
>>        make.options).
>> 
>>                 Thanks.
>> 
>>                 Regards,
>>                 mani
>> 
>>                 --
>>                 Twitter: @theNeomatrix369
>>                 Blog: http://neomatrix369.wordpress.____com
>>        <http://neomatrix369.__wordpress.com
>>        <http://neomatrix369.wordpress.com>><http://__neomatrxi369.
>>        <http://neomatrxi369.>__wordpress.com <http://wordpress.com>
>> 
>>        <http://neomatrxi369.__wordpress.com
>>        <http://neomatrxi369.wordpress.com>>>
>> 
>>                 *Don't chase success, rather aim for "Excellence", and
>>        success
>>                 will come
>>                 chasing after you!*
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>        --
>>        Twitter: @theNeomatrix369
>>        Blog: http://neomatrix369.wordpress.__com
>>        <http://neomatrix369.wordpress.com>
>>        <http://neomatrxi369.__wordpress.com
>>        <http://neomatrxi369.wordpress.com>>
>> 
>>        */Don't chase success, rather aim for "Excellence", and success
>>        will come chasing after you!/*
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Twitter: @theNeomatrix369
>> Blog: http://neomatrix369.wordpress.com <http://neomatrxi369.wordpress.com>
>> 
>> */Don't chase success, rather aim for "Excellence", and success will
>> come chasing after you!/*


From jonathan.gibbons at oracle.com  Thu Jan 10 09:52:27 2013
From: jonathan.gibbons at oracle.com (Jonathan Gibbons)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:52:27 -0800
Subject: OpenJDK builds: Ant build issues with jdk (netbeans) sub-projects
	- awt2d, j2se and jarzip
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The genesis of these projects was two-fold -- at the time, IDEs could 
not slurp in all the JDK code without a serious case of indigestion, and 
the build times were fairly slow, leading to ad-hoc methods for 
incremental builds.

Going forward, once sjavac (smart javac) is put in place for OpenJDK 
builds, incremental builds should be very fast, so that although you 
will take a hit for the initial build, subsequent builds will be much 
faster. And, IDEs are more likely now to take more of the OpenJDK code 
at once.

Given that, I think we should revisit the goals and requirements for 
these projects, determining the targets that would most help the folk 
working on the code and potentially using the projects. I would like to 
do that sooner rather than later for the langtools project. It would be 
nice if, generally, we could have an overall project for all of OpenJDK, 
but failing that, ones for the primary areas, such as core-libs, client 
and so on.  I suspect more than a few developers create their own 
mini-projects, so it would be interesting to survey folk to find the 
preferred editor/IDE of choice, and how folk tend to use it -- just for 
editing, or for edit/build, or even edit/build/debug.

Note that an ongoing problem when using an IDE (that will never go away 
completely) is that much of OpenJDK uses the latest version of the 
language (i.e. currently 8) which is not yet officially supported by any 
IDE, although some pre-release versions may be available.  Thus you will 
find use of lambda expressions creeping into JDK 8 source code -- which 
will likely cause red squiggly lines in your code, unless you revert (as 
some do!) to emacs, vi, etc.  Welcome to the bleeding edge ;-)

-- Jon


On 01/10/2013 09:16 AM, Mike Duigou wrote:
> I've made a few patches over the last couple of years to the NetBeans projects mostly to make editting code and tests within the IDE easier but haven't ever spent much effort trying to build from within the IDE. I have been anticipating doing some work to see if building from within the IDE can be done more simply with the new build infrastructure once it is in place. As Anthony suggest though this will likely be full builds of all of OpenJDK.
>
> Mike
>
> On Jan 10 2013, at 06:25 , Anthony Petrov wrote:
>
>> Hi Mani,
>>
>> I realize this, and in fact the (now) old build system should have allow you to build e.g. AWT separately by invoking make from make/java/awt, make/sun/awt, and on X11 - make/sun/xawt directories.
>>
>> However, the new build system does not generally support this kind of partial builds. For any "sub"-projects. You can only invoke make for the whole JDK in the top-level directory. This is how it is designed to work. Note that this new build system is able to resolve dependencies very quickly, and as a result incremental builds (i.e. when you change just a few files) should take very small amount of time. Even building the whole JDK for the first time takes significantly less time than with the old build system.
>>
>> Given that we're switching to the new build system real soon, and the old build system will be deprecated and removed eventually, I strongly recommend you to try out the new one. You may want to clone the jdk8/build forest where it is fully implemented at the moment and play with it.
>>
>> --
>> best regards,
>> Anthony
>>
>> On 01/10/13 04:31, Mani Sarkar wrote:
>>> Hi Anthony,
>>>
>>> Thanks for responding to my post.
>>>
>>> I'm aware of the make files available for other projects and
>>> sub-projects from within the OpenJDK. But the reason I was requesting
>>> help on building the Awt2d and J2se as they form part of the JDK project
>>> and it would be handy to be able to build them separately (irrespective
>>> of the netbeans projects) to the whole JDK project itself. Given that
>>> the total build time for the JDK is longer than just building its
>>> underlying components - developers would love working on separate
>>> components in IDEs of their choice.
>>>
>>> I'm working on wiki instructions to help with the Adopt OpenJDK
>>> initiative which would assist adopters to build these projects via the
>>> CLI or from withiin Eclipse.
>>>
>>> At this stage I'm updating existing instructions to build OpenJDK and
>>> its sub-projects in Eclipse and CLI - I have been able to build most of
>>> the sub-projects except the two sub-projects under the /jdk/
>>> folder.Besides moving the make files of these projects to the new build
>>> system would also benefit future adopters to directly load them up in
>>> their IDE and amend the underlying code and see the build results in the
>>> console.
>>>
>>> There is a potential for a larger number of users in our group to do
>>> just this and more hence I'm involved in the process.  Any hint or help
>>> would be most appreciated, as I think it might just be a matter of
>>> configuration - I did read about sustaining these build.xml files for
>>> future use on a couple of other mailing lists.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mani
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Anthony Petrov
>>> <anthony.petrov at oracle.com <mailto:anthony.petrov at oracle.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi Mani,
>>>
>>>     Not many developers really use NetBeans when working on JDK code.
>>>     And only a few (if any) actually build it from NetBeans. Since the
>>>     main build system for JDK is makefiles-based, obviously the netbeans
>>>     projects are almost never updated when something happens to the way
>>>     the code is built. Thus the projects become outdated.
>>>
>>>     The new build system (configure/make-based, see the makefiles/
>>>     directory in JDK) is very fast. It does a very good job with
>>>     incremental builds, so I suggest to use it for your purposes.
>>>
>>>     --
>>>     best regards,
>>>     Anthony
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 1/6/2013 19:00, Mani Sarkar wrote:
>>>
>>>         Hi,
>>>
>>>         I have been recommended to post my below query to your mailing
>>>         list, if it is the right place to post. If not could you
>>>         recommend who would be best placed to answer the below questions.
>>>
>>>         Thanks.
>>>
>>>         Regards,
>>>         Mani
>>>
>>>         On 01/05/2013 04:05 PM, Mani Sarkar wrote:
>>>
>>>              Hi all,
>>>
>>>              I have made some progress with the below three
>>>         sub-projects, and have
>>>              successfully built jarzip. But still get new error messages
>>>         with
>>>              awt2d and
>>>              j2se.
>>>
>>>              I answered my own question about the -source 8, its basically
>>>              expecting the
>>>              images/j2sdk-image to be assigned to the respective ALT_...
>>>              variables via
>>>              the make.options property in build.properties for all three
>>>         projects.
>>>
>>>              Unfortunately I wasn't able to build swing via the
>>>         .../javax/swing/
>>>              folder
>>>              where the required make file(s) are present.
>>>
>>>              But my other queries still stand, if you can throw some
>>>         light on
>>>              them, it
>>>              would be help make progress with these builds using the new
>>>         build
>>>              system.
>>>
>>>              Thanks.
>>>
>>>              Regards,
>>>              Mani
>>>
>>>              On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Mani Sarkar
>>>         <sadhak001 at gmail.com <mailto:sadhak001 at gmail.com>
>>>         <mailto:sadhak001 at gmail.com <mailto:sadhak001 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                  Hi All,
>>>
>>>                  I have furthered my pursuits with building *OpenJDK
>>>         projects *by
>>>                  building
>>>
>>>                  the JDK sub-projects like swing, etc... but came across
>>>         issues with
>>>                  building 3 different projects which I wasn't able to
>>>         build due
>>>                  configuration issues. These sub-projects are located
>>>         under the
>>>                  netbeans
>>>                  subfolder under the .../jdk/make/ folder.
>>>
>>>                  They all are getting compiled for version 8 with the
>>>         below args
>>>                  (which is
>>>                  leading to a build failure):
>>>
>>>                      -source 8 -target 8
>>>
>>>                  *jdk/awt2d*
>>>
>>>         https://github.com/____neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/____blob/master/____EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/____Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.____log
>>>         <https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.__log>
>>>         <https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.__log
>>>         <https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/awt2d/awt2dAntBuild.log>>
>>>
>>>                  *jdk/j2se*
>>>
>>>         https://github.com/____neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/____blob/master/____EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/____Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log
>>>         <https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log>
>>>         <https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log
>>>         <https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/j2se/j2seAntBuild.log>__>
>>>
>>>                  *jdk/jarzip*
>>>
>>>
>>>         https://github.com/____neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/____blob/master/____EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/____Logs/jdk/jarzip/____jarzipAntBuild.log
>>>         <https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/jarzip/__jarzipAntBuild.log>
>>>
>>>         <https://github.com/__neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/__blob/master/__EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/__Logs/jdk/jarzip/__jarzipAntBuild.log
>>>         <https://github.com/neomatrix369/BuildHelpers/blob/master/EclipseProjectsForOpenJDK/Logs/jdk/jarzip/jarzipAntBuild.log>>
>>>
>>>                  Where is this version configuration set for these
>>>         projects, that
>>>                  I can
>>>                  change either through file changes or alternative
>>>                  build.properties setting
>>>                  changes? My other question is why are there no make files
>>>                  available for the
>>>                  jdk sub-projects (i.e. *awt2d, j2se,* etc...) except
>>>         for under *
>>>                  javax/swing* has make files to build this project
>>>         instead Ant
>>>                  build.xml
>>>
>>>                  files are available. Is it possible to hook these ant
>>>         files with
>>>                  the new
>>>                  build system, instead of only being able to build the
>>>                  sub-projects via the
>>>                  old build system (using the ALT_... variables via
>>>         make.options).
>>>
>>>                  Thanks.
>>>
>>>                  Regards,
>>>                  mani
>>>
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