JavaFX port to iOS/Android status

[Herve Girod]

>
> Hi Richard,
>
> I knew nothing about XMLVM but my first cursory looks suggests it is
> nothing
> more than a way to represent a byte-code based application in a generic way
> so that it may be easily ported to any architecture.  Given that the JVM
> itself is not actually a Java byte-code application, how is this going to
> help with porting it?
>

I am far from knowledgeable on .NET, but I suggest looking how Mono is
working on Android and iOS. See here for example:
http://docs.xamarin.com/guides/android/advanced_topics/architecture


> Getting JavaFX to run on Dalvik may be an easier option but I have heard
> rumours that Google are seriously looking to remove Java (and "Java-like"
> technologies such as Dalvik) from all their products in response to the
> legal wrangling with Oracle.  I expect Java support in their software will
> be deprecated and eventually phased-out altogether with GWT's Java
> fundamentals for example being replaced with Dart and so on.  I wouldn't be
> surprised to see the Android SDK being based on C++ in the not so distant
> future (or maybe even yet another "new" language).


Maybe, but I think that if they do that, Google will be the first to "pay".
I don't think that Oracle get anything from the fact that Google use their
"proprietary" Java on Android, but rebuilding all what they have done
before on Dalvik in another language (and making sure it's working) will be
a LOT of work.

Hervé


2013/4/21 John C. Turnbull <ozemale at ozemail.com.au>

> Hi Richard,
>
> I knew nothing about XMLVM but my first cursory looks suggests it is
> nothing
> more than a way to represent a byte-code based application in a generic way
> so that it may be easily ported to any architecture.  Given that the JVM
> itself is not actually a Java byte-code application, how is this going to
> help with porting it?
>
> Getting JavaFX to run on Dalvik may be an easier option but I have heard
> rumours that Google are seriously looking to remove Java (and "Java-like"
> technologies such as Dalvik) from all their products in response to the
> legal wrangling with Oracle.  I expect Java support in their software will
> be deprecated and eventually phased-out altogether with GWT's Java
> fundamentals for example being replaced with Dart and so on.  I wouldn't be
> surprised to see the Android SDK being based on C++ in the not so distant
> future (or maybe even yet another "new" language).  And it's not just
> Oracle
> that Google has in its sights with the recent news that they are abandoning
> WebKit in favour of Blink which would appear to be driven more from its
> competition with Apple that any genuine technological need.  Don't worry, I
> know you cannot comment on any of these issues ;-)
>
> I am going to do my own research into what is available that may be
> suitable
> to form the basis of an iOS/Android VM capable of running JavaFX
> applications and will report back when I have some concrete results.
>
> -jct
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Bair [mailto:richard.bair at oracle.com]
> Sent: Saturday, 20 April 2013 11:32
> To: John C. Turnbull
> Cc: openjfx-dev at openjdk.java.net
> Subject: Re: JavaFX port to iOS/Android status
>
> The remainder of the iOS and Android code is slated to go out (along with
> the rest of Prism) early next week if all goes well. But these ports don't
> include a VM, so somebody from "the outside" is going to have to get it up
> and running on Dalvik or XMLVM or something. Certainly *not* an
> insurmountable challenge for one so motivated ;-)
>
> Richard
>
> On Apr 19, 2013, at 5:38 PM, John C. Turnbull <ozemale at ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> > What's the status of the JavaFX port to iOS and Android?  Has anyone
> > got seriously involved and started to make progress?  Is there someone
> > who is overseeing the project that I can contact?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > -jct
> >
>
>