Prism d3d & es2 pipeline + javafx-iio are now open source

[Danno Ferrin]

Avian has both modes, 'bootimage' which is full AOT as well as interpreter.

https://github.com/ReadyTalk/avian
https://github.com/ReadyTalk/hello-ios


On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 6:54 PM, <ozemale at ozemail.com.au> wrote:

> Hi Danno,
>
> I don't know much about Avian but isn't it just a slimmed-down JVM that
> does JIT (where supported)?  Obviously JIT won't work on iOS for example so
> won't that mean that iOS/Avian/JavaFX applications would have to be
> entirely interpreted (which will never be fast enough)?
>
> I think there are only 2 options here for successful JavaFX deployment to
> mobiles and tablets:
>
> 1. Full AOT compilation i.e Java source code compiled directly to the
> target OS.
> 2. Partial AOT compilation i.e. Java bytecode compiled to the target OS
> (e.g. XMLVM).
>
> I have been looking at XMLVM but I am concerned that it appears to have
> gone a bit stale.  It's a great concept and it would be really nice if it
> were maintained enthusiastically so we could port iOS to Android etc. and
> easily port JavaFX to iOS and Android but it doesn't appear to be that
> active at the moment.
>
> I just don't think we are going to get across the line if we take the
> approach of trying to get what we think of as a JVM working on these OSes
> as a separate component.  In my opinion, Java bytecode should never make it
> on to iOS or Android.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -jct
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> "Danno Ferrin" <danno.ferrin at shemnon.com>
>
> To:
> "Daniel Zwolenski" <zonski at gmail.com>
> Cc:
> "openjfx-dev at openjdk.java.net" <openjfx-dev at openjdk.java.net>
> Sent:
> Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:32:45 -0600
> Subject:
> Re: Prism d3d & es2 pipeline + javafx-iio are now open source
>
>
>
> I am looking at Avian for the VM.
>
> We tried to do some stuff with XMLVM at my day job and opted for straight
> native after working with it for a week or so because there are just too
> many holes in things like their implementation of the collections API.
> Combined with the low level network stuff we had to do (lower that Java
> has APIs for) it was not good enough.
>
> With Avian their web site says you can bring in the whole rt.jar if needed
> and compile that byte code. Put a ProGuard filter in front of it to reduce
> the class sizes and stay away from reflection and it looks quite doable.
>
> One path I am interested in but don't have the patience for is to try and
> hook it into the ADF Mobile VM. I don't want to learn JDeveloper at this
> point and I also might want to release stuff w/o getting Oracle sales
> involved, so that is lower down the 'try it' list. Perhaps if that is
> possible the Oracle sales organization might need come up with a new price
> sheet for that deployment scenario, since it wouldn't depend on an ADF
> server. But I'm a techie not a sales engineer so I don't want to wade into
> those waters.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Daniel Zwolenski <zonski at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Great news.
> >
> > Anyone got any thoughts on how we now make use of the iOS stuff? Any
> > starting points?
> >
> >
> > On 24/04/2013, at 6:17 AM, Hervé Girod <herve.girod at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > That's great!
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On 23 avr. 2013, at 22:06, Gerrit Grunwald <han.solo at muenster.de>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Sweet...that's really good news.
> > >>
> > >> Thanx to the JavaFX team to make it possible.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >>
> > >> Gerrit
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Am 23.04.2013 um 20:39 schrieb Richard Bair <richard.bair at oracle.com
> >:
> > >>
> > >>> Yay!
> > >>>
> > >>> We still have web & media to open source. There are also a couple
> > stragglers:
> > >>> - javafx-mx
> > >>> - javafx-font
> > >>> - javafx-accessible
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm getting information on the status of these. Web is basically
> ready
> > to go, we're just figuring out how to do it (we don't want to spend a
> bunch
> > of time getting the ant builds all updated for webnode only to replace
> them
> > with gradle a couple weeks later). We may just open source the code and
> not
> > have it wired into the open build except via gradle.
> > >>>
> > >>> Needless to say, the list of things left to open source is getting
> > very short, we're in the home stretch :-)
> > >>>
> > >>> Richard
> > >>>
> > >>> On Apr 23, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Kevin Rushforth <
> > kevin.rushforth at oracle.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We just open-sourced the following FX sub-projects:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 1. Prism HW pipelines: prism-es2* and prism-d3d*
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This completes the open-sourcing of Prism and includes the Java and
> > native code for the two Prism pipelines, including the platform-specific
> > Prism code for Windows, Mac, Linux, eglfb (for embedded Linux-arm), IOS,
> > and Android.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 2. Image loaders: javafx-iio*
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The native pieces for all of the above are now be built with "ant
> > jar" but the native libraries are not yet copied to the "dist" directory
> > (just like the decora native libraries). I may or may not address that,
> > since we will eventually switch to the gradle build.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -- Kevin
> > >>>
> >
>
>
>
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>


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