Proposal to move default style-class from Control to SkinBase

Tom Schindl tom.schindl at bestsolution.at
Wed Aug 7 13:56:19 PDT 2013


If I get your complain right what you want has nothing to do with CSS
but you are requesting that the complete FX API is remodeled, CSS is
simply a way to set properties of your Nodes in the SceneGraph, in a
none intrusive way.

You need to differiate between CSS as a language and the properties one
can set on DOM/SceneGraph-Nodes.

>From the selector point (language) of view FX-CSS support all important
selector types, but because the nodes in the DOM (=SceneGraph in FX) are
different you have other properties.

So if you invent the same node-types you have on the web (lets face it
there's only a handful of them most important are most likely div,span)
and give them the same properties you know from the web you can copy
your Web-CSS stylesheet to your FX-Application.

Tom

On 07.08.13 22:41, Pedro Duque Vieira wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> I'm not going to directly answer your question but I'm rather gonna touch
> on a problem I see regarding JavaFX CSS. Forgive me for not directly
> sticking to the subject of your email.
> 
> The issue I see is that JavaFX CSS significantly differs from W3C CSS, that
> is the CSS that is used on the web.
> I've already touch this subject before but didn't have much answer from
> this mailing list. The reason why I bring it back again is that the more I
> do web development the more this seems unappropriated.
> 
> Having JavaFX CSS differ from W3C CSS has the following disadvantages:
> 
>    - Designers coming from web development (they are the majority) will
>    struggle with JavaFX CSS
>    - Cannot use CSS pre-processors like SASS, LESS, Compass thus missing
>    out on this tooling that significantly enhances CSS. You can do really cool
>    stuff with Compass.
>    - Cannot reuse what already is out there on the web. And there are a
>    huge amount of examples there.
>    - Re-inventing the wheel. My personal opinion is that you should try to
>    harness the work that already exists especially when you have few
>    resources.  People have already spent some time on this, tested and fixed
>    issues with it. So why not "stand on the shoulder of giants".
> 
> I'm not saying you should introduce CSS layout, that is a headache and a
> problem that they're trying to solve in CSS3, but all the rest can be
> changed to be the same as CSS. You can even have both working side by side,
> the current JavaFX CSS and a newer more W3C conforming CSS so that you
> don't break existing apps.
> 
> I don't see any advantage of having a CSS different from W3C one, if I was
> going to make one different I would have created a newer more simpler
> language to express an apps appearance. Not used CSS.
> 
> Thanks, best regards,
> 
> 
> 



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