Metro apps

[Pedro Duque Vieira]

Bring back this topic, since it hasn't yet had any response from javafx
team.

Cheers,

On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:33 AM, Daniel Zwolenski <zonski at gmail.com> wrote:

> All good questions that I'd also like to see answered at some point.
>
> Regarding jfx apps in the windows store, my initial investigation into
> this is it should be legally and technically fine (I am no lawyer, blah,
> blah, blah) and potentially quite easy.
>
> Supporting this via the JFX maven plugin (so you'd do a mvn
> jfx:build-win-app-store and potentially a similar deploy version that did
> the upload for you) is about 4th or 5th on my todo list, which possibly
> means around feb. If anyone wants to help on this front it could be sooner
> - just shout out.
>
> Priority #1 for me though is to get the jfx packaging tools building and
> deployed into maven central. From that, everything else flows.
>
>
> On 27/12/2012, at 12:05 PM, Pedro Duque Vieira <
> pedro.duquevieira at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> To do an app that has a "metro-style" UI could well just be a case of
>> skinning things differently and adding some new controls but this would
>> really only work on normal Windows (I think Windows 8 will run Java but
>> in compatibility mode). To actually run a "metro-style" app on Windows RT
>> (MS's new OS for ultra-portable computers) I think requires a port of the
>> JDK and JFX to that platform.
>
>
> Not just run on Windows RT but also on Windows 8.
>
> If compatibility mode is the only viable option for now we could still
> emulate the metro style on that mode, although I haven't thought whether
> that would be of value.
>
>  There are a bunch of technical challenges with such a port I believe
>> (e.g. RT is heavily sand-boxed from the looks of it).
>
> I'm not sure but I think RT only allows for AOT like ios devices. So this
> falls under the "run javafx on tablets and mobiles" issue which Oracle
> doesn't want to disclose any more info about.
> But we also still have windows 8.
>
> One other question I have is whether it is possible to sell java apps on
> the windows store.
>
> So, in conclusion:
>
>    1. Will java apps ever run through the Start screen of windows 8 /
>    windows RT (we probably won't get any answer for now on this..)
>    2. For now we can run Java on Windows 8 Desktop. Is emulating a metro
>    style app, on that mode, a good idea?
>       1. If it is a good idea how would we go about doing it? Are there
>       any system calls we can make to bring up things like the app toolbar or do
>       we hand code that? What about the platforms standard animations and other
>       stuff?
>    3. Is it now possible to sell javafx apps on the windows store? If
>    not, will it be possible on the future?
>
>
> Thanks, Cheers,
>
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Daniel Zwolenski <zonski at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> This was also asked somewhat in that massive 'mobile' thread on the OTN
>> forum:
>> https://forums.oracle.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=10708891#10708891
>>
>> No response but perhaps it got lost in all the noise on that thread.
>>
>> jsmith gives some good info on the difference between Windows Metro,
>> Windows 8 and Windows RT. It's worth getting clear on the terminology since
>> it's all very messy thanks to some MS branding issues.
>>
>>
>> It would be great if someone from Oracle could clarify all this, but
>> given the xmas break I think things are a little quiet at the moment.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Pedro Duque Vieira <
>> pedro.duquevieira at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm asking this (below) because while doing a metro version of javafx
>>> controls in my project JMetro, I wonder how things like the app toolbar
>>> will be implemented, if the javafx team is already doing it and if not
>>> how
>>> should I go about doing it..
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Pedro Duque Vieira <
>>> pedro.duquevieira at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > Are you going to support Metro apps? That is, with all that implies:
>>> >
>>> >    1. Different type of interface
>>> >       1. full window
>>> >       2. app toolbar
>>> >       3. charms toolbar
>>> >       4. tile API: show images on start screen inside tile,
>>> >       notifications, etc
>>> >       5. metro animations
>>> >       6. etc
>>> >    2. If so (answer to 1 is yes), than how are you going to implement
>>>
>>> >    that? Will you code javafx versions of things like the app toolbar
>>> or are
>>> >    you going to rely on system calls to make this stuff show up?
>>> (don't know
>>> >    if the later option exists or is possible)
>>> >
>>> > Thanks, best regards,
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Pedro Duque Vieira
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Pedro Duque Vieira
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Pedro Duque Vieira
>
>


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Pedro Duque Vieira