Disabling JavaFX minimise/maximise/etc buttons

[Anthony Petrov]

On 07/24/13 12:29, Fabrizio Giudici wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:59:07 +0200, Artem Ananiev
> <artem.ananiev at oracle.com> wrote:
>> On 7/24/2013 12:45 AM, Fabrizio Giudici wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 22:34:48 +0200, Anthony Petrov
>>> <anthony.petrov at oracle.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't agree. IMO, it's annoying when I'm able to resize a window
>>>> freely but unable to maximize it. This just doesn't look logical or
>>>> convenient.
>>>
>>> I'm with Werner here. Maximixing a dialog is usually ugly from the
>>> aesthetic point of view, but sometimes I'm annoyed by dialogs that are
>>> just a bit too narrow for entering a text, or something else
>>> (incidentally, e.g. the Java control panel seems to be filled with
>>> non-resizable windows designed just to annoy people :-). I'd just like
>>> to stretch them a bit.
>>
>> Could you identify the boundary between just making a window larger
>> and maximizing it? I can't. What about Windows 7 "snap" feature, is it
>> resizing or maximizing? In other words, my understanding is that if a
>> window is resizable, it should be maximizable as well. However, as I
>> wrote in my previous emails, sometimes it's out of Java control: we
>> can say if a window should be resizable or not, and the platform
>> decides if it is minimizable/maximizable or not.
>>
>> Thanks,
>
> The boundary is when you feel the look is ugly, thus it's related to the
> % of size increase. That's why "snap" is not a problem. Of course I
> can't tell you a precise threshold, it depends. But it's ok when I just
> enlarge a window because it lacks the room for say 5-10 characters of
> input, while I don't like to see a maximized window where there's just a
> small content and large amounts of empty space.

Then just don't push the Maximize button! :) I mean, you can easily 
achieve the state of ugliness by resizing the window as well, but you 
still want it to be resizable. So what's the big deal with the Maximize 
button then? Let it be there for people who want/need it.


> Also: sometimes you want a modal, that is the main window is blocked,
> but perhaps you need to read something in the main window, that would
> help to answer to the question of the modal. If the modal is just
> resizable (and draggable) there's no problem. If the modal has been
> maximized, you can't. Of course, it's up to the user to avoid maximizing
> it if it's a problem - there are no showstoppers here. But UI design is
> all about driving the user in the right direction and minimizing the
> number of interaction items needed to accomplish a task.

I doubt an app would maximize a dialog initially (and if it does, it's a 
problem in the app itself). Otherwise, it's up to the user to 
maximize/unmaximize the dialog, or only resize it whenever and however 
it is needed/convenient at the moment.

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best regards,
Anthony