JavaOne roundup?
Danno Ferrin
danno.ferrin at shemnon.com
Mon Sep 30 06:51:53 PDT 2013
The current ADF Mobile back end is based on CDC Profile J2ME if I
understand it correctly.
On stage for the keynote they said Java SE Embedded is going to replace CDC.
In the Compact Profiles for ADF Mobile talk they said that the compact 1
profile is what the are looking at moving towards, although they have
nothing to ship or even show. Gone are the days of Sun where something
almost ready would be shipped because it was conference time.
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Tobias Bley <tobi at ultramixer.com> wrote:
> I don’t think you. ADF mobile uses HTML5 as frontend, so there is no need
> to execute JavaFX code on the client… maybe there is a J2ME based VM in ADF
> (like Codename One do)
>
>
> Am 30.09.2013 um 13:58 schrieb Ali Ebrahimi <ali.ebrahimi1781 at gmail.com>:
>
> > Yes, but they use that for ADF mobile.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Tobias Bley <tobi at ultramixer.com>
> wrote:
> > Does Oracle really has an AOT based JVM for iOS and Android?
> >
> >
> > Am 30.09.2013 um 11:16 schrieb Udo Rader <listudo at bestsolution.at>:
> >
> > > If you add the pieces of information together (announced and then
> > > shortly cancelled J1 talks), you perfectly get the right picture.
> > >
> > > The *problem* certainly is not the technical part.
> > >
> > > While I disagree that the RPi is just nerd stuff (the "embedded" market
> > > is huge), I agree however that any further delay with JavaFX on Android
> > > & iOS is really bad.
> > >
> > > I believe this situation is just as frustrating for the Oracle
> > > *developers* like it is for the rest of the JavaFX community.
> > >
> > > "Public relations" in the core sense of its meaning has completely
> > > failed here, IMHO.
> > >
> > > On 09/30/2013 10:03 AM, Felix Bembrick wrote:
> > >> I am sure Oracle management "get it". There are lots of issues here,
> not just technical. I am sure they want to get it perfect before they
> announce anything. Let's hope that's why nothing has eventuated yet...
> > >>
> > >>> On 30 Sep 2013, at 17:04, Tobias Bley <tobi at ultramixer.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I don’t understand why „all“ this people who needs JavaFX on
> iOS/Android does not tell it Oracles management. And I don’t understand why
> all this people use their time to develop all this demos and Rasp.PI stuff.
> Who needs it? Why don’t we develop base stuff like iOS skins, Android
> skins, iOS/Android widgets, RoboVM for Android, RoboVM using OpenJDK, … I
> really love useful stuff like the „JavaFX maven plugin“ or the „AquaFX“
> project. That kind of development we need!
> > >>>
> > >>> Best,
> > >>> Tobi
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Am 30.09.2013 um 08:50 schrieb Felix Bembrick <
> felix.bembrick at gmail.com>:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> No, you are *not* the only one. We *all* need it. In fact, without
> it happening soon, JavaFX is already dead.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> But let's not give up yet. Perhaps it's closer than we know. I am
> a glass half full kinda guy :-)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On 30 Sep 2013, at 16:40, Tobias Bley <tobi at ultramixer.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I suppose „legal reasons“….
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> For me it’s very frustrating to see every year the same procedure:
> JavaFX-iOS/Android related tracks were canceled - „nerd“ stuff like
> Rasp.PI, DukePad & Co were announced. Maybe I’m really the only one who
> needs JavaFX on mobile to use JavaFX on desktop as well… :(
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Am 29.09.2013 um 18:13 schrieb Jeff Martin <jeff at reportmill.com>:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> It seems the JFX on iOS/Android were cancelled at the last
> moment. I tried to keep expectations low this year, but I admit I harbored
> secret hopes based on those sessions (a few embarrassingly optimistic
> conversations with clients notwithstanding).
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Last week Tomas offered this:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> about cancelled sessions please contact Mr. JavaOne
> stephen.chin at oracle.com I believe he will give satisfactory answer.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I'd like to take him up on that satisfactory offer. Also, can we
> run the name "DukePad" by marketing again?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> :-)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> jeff
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Sep 29, 2013, at 12:12 AM, Daniel Zwolenski <zonski at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> The sessions aren't up yet from the looks of it. It would be
> great to get an overall roundup of any new announcements or directions in
> any case. Given this is the developer community network it would make sense
> in my mind to highlight stuff like that in here.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> For me, I'd love it if someone could quickly sum up any
> announcements or sessions made about JavaFX for iOS, Android or in the
> deployment space?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> What happened at the sessions Tobi highlighted before (
> http://blog.software4java.com/?p=97), did anyone go to these and able to
> give us some info?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On 27/09/2013, at 7:07 AM, Richard Bair <
> richard.bair at oracle.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> The sessions, I think, are all being uploaded to Parley's (
> http://www.parleys.com), although I don't see any content there yet (not
> sure how long it will take them to post-process, but usually it is pretty
> fast).
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Richard
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Daniel Zwolenski <
> zonski at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Has anyone done or seen any good roundups (text or video) of
> the JavaOne sessions relating to javafx?
> > >>>
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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