JavaFX features in JDK 9

[Jack Moxley]

Maybe it should its aspirations a little higher, especially with the advent of unity, webgl or even scenegraph impls such as jmonkeyengine that do.

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> On 30 Jun 2015, at 09:42, Felix Bembrick <felix.bembrick at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> <cough>JavaFX has *never* claimed to be write once, run anyway</cough>
> 
> 
>> On 30 Jun 2015, at 18:13, Mike <mikegps1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> <cough>write once, run anywhere</cough>
>> 
>> This about sums it up!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:12 AM, Jack Moxley <jack at moxley.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> <cough>write once, run anywhere</cough>
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On 29 Jun 2015, at 21:45, Michał Zegan <webczat_200 at poczta.onet.pl>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>> Does it mean platform support for linux won't be implemented now, or
>>>> at all?
>>>> I usually use windows, but still depend on that support because I
>>>> sometimes use linux, so I am interested about that.
>>>> 
>>>> W dniu 2015-06-29 o 22:40, Kevin Rushforth pisze:
>>>>> There is public API in 8u40 to support accessibility. Applications
>>>>> using standard JavaFX controls can, for example, use the
>>>>> accessibleText property to define the text that the screen reader
>>>>> will speak or the accessibleHelp property to provide a more
>>>>> detailed description. These properties have reasonable defaults,
>>>>> but can be overridden by applications. Additionally, if you use the
>>>>> "labelFor" property to point to a Control that the Label is
>>>>> associated with, the accessibility framework will use that when the
>>>>> screen reader is active.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Custom controls can override the queryAccessibleAttribute,
>>>>> executeAccessibleAction, and notifyAccessibleAttributeChanged
>>>>> methods.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As for platform support, we currently support Windows and Mac
>>>>> platforms. We have no plan to make FX accessible on Linux .
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- Kevin
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Michał Zegan wrote: I saw it, and it seems promising, but: first,
>>>>> there is probably, or I heard it wrong? no public api for making
>>>>> accessibility related stuff... Also, I believe there is no linux
>>>>> accessibility bridge as opposed to windows and mac. And I do not
>>>>> know if I am wrong, or when this is going to be implemented.
>>>>> 
>>>>> W dniu 2015-06-29 o 20:30, Kevin Rushforth pisze:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> JavaFX accessibility is already implemented and was delivered
>>>>>>>> in JDK 8u40.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -- Kevin
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Michał Zegan wrote: What about accessibility work? Work on it
>>>>>>>> has been started, but not sure if it is still targetted for
>>>>>>>> 9.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> W dniu 2015-06-27 o 20:16, Mike pisze:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of FULL blown Webrtc support and building
>>>>>>>>>>> something in Javafx (like Scene Builder) that Proves
>>>>>>>>>>> Webrtc support would be awesome. Ditto to Webgl
>>>>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Kevin Rushforth
>>>>>>>>>>> <kevin.rushforth at oracle.com
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Felix,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay. Most of us were still pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>> focused on 8u60, but we are turning our attention to
>>>>>>>>>>>> JDK 9 now.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The focus for JDK 9 is Jigsaw. The currently planned
>>>>>>>>>>>> big features (JEPs) for FX in JDK 9 are these:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> JEP 253: Prepare JavaFX UI Controls & CSS APIs for
>>>>>>>>>>>> Modularization JEP 257: Update JavaFX/Media to Newer
>>>>>>>>>>>> Version of GStreamer
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Related to Jigasw, we intend to look into new API for
>>>>>>>>>>>> heavily used internal methods / classes since they
>>>>>>>>>>>> will no longer be accessible otherwise. We also plan
>>>>>>>>>>>> to update WebKit at least one more time, and will
>>>>>>>>>>>> likely do a few RFEs such as better Hi-DPI support
>>>>>>>>>>>> (with API control) on Mac, Windows, Linux.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't currently plan any other big features for 9,
>>>>>>>>>>>> but will consider additional RFEs if they are
>>>>>>>>>>>> important to enough developers and if they fit into
>>>>>>>>>>>> the time frame.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Kevin
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Felix Bembrick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone got anything or is there a link somewhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that talks about these?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15 June 2015 at 22:00, Felix Bembrick
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <felix.bembrick at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I realise we are a long way off JDK 9 still and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with crucial features such as Jigsaw still a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little up in the air but is it possible someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could itemise the most likely new features,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements and bug fixes that we will see in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JavaFX when JDK 9 is released?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course it's purely speculation at this point
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it would assist me greatly to have some of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea of where JavaFX is heading and which areas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are seen as most important.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Felix
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