Building Scene Builder

[Kevin Rushforth]

Sven Reimers wrote:
> So,  is this a call for community and Gradle experts please helps us?
>
> We are able (and want) to upgrade to a newer gradle version?
>   

Not for FX 8u. We will upgrade FX 9 to a newer gradle (e.g., .2.3 or 
later). See:

https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-40256

-- Kevin

> We want to share the whole pile of dirty gradle scripts to get you started?
>
> Sounds interesting to me...
>
> -Sven
> Am 27.05.2015 18:48 schrieb "David Hill" <David.Hill at oracle.com>:
>
>   
>> On 5/27/15, 12:08 PM, Scott Palmer wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> On May 27, 2015, at 10:04 AM, David Hill<David.Hill at Oracle.com>  wrote:
>>>       
>>>> On 5/24/15, 10:56 AM, Scott Palmer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Where can I find the instructions for building Scene Builder from
>>>>> source?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I ran Ant in the apps/scenebuilder folder and it produced
>>>>> SceneBuilderApp.jar in the 'SceneBuilderApp/dist' folder.  But where's
>>>>> the
>>>>> rest of it?  It looks like the javapackager part does run
>>>>> automatically, so
>>>>> I don't have a native executable with a nice icon and all those
>>>>> finishing
>>>>> touches that make it a "real" app.
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> I am in the process of adding a "run" command to the ant script. We do
>>>> not have plans at the moment to add a packaging step.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> What happened to the original packaging step?  The Oracle download is a
>>> packaged app, was it a manual step or something?  I can’t even find the
>>> application icon in the source.
>>>
>>>  Our internal build has 2 parts - OpenJFX and the "closed" stuff. The
>>>       
>> "closed" stuff has a lot of legacy steps that we have not had the time or
>> inclination to move to the OpenJFX side. (after all, working with a complex
>> chunk of delicate gradle/ant code for a long time tends to make your eyes
>> bleed).
>>
>> But occasionally we get some motivation and we move another bit of
>> functionality over. I did ask our packager guy if he could sketch out how
>> to do this standalone, so it might happen.
>>
>>     
>>> I did notice the build output print a "jfx-deployment:" step, but I guess
>>>       
>>>>> that is something else. I haven't used Ant in years, so I'm a little
>>>>> rusty.  I was actually surprised that there wasn't a Gradle script in
>>>>> the
>>>>> apps/SceneBuilder folder.  I thought perhaps the apps are just using the
>>>>> default NetBeans project format.  I then noticed when loading the
>>>>> project
>>>>> in NetBeans that I didn't get the little "FX" decal on the coffee cup
>>>>> icon,
>>>>> so it isn't a NetBean "JavaFX" project.
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> When I added in the building of the apps in the overall tree, I was
>>>> constrained by several things that gradle does not (or did not) play nicely
>>>> with.
>>>> We wanted to treat most of the items as independent sub projects, and at
>>>> least some of them have ant scripts that needed to be included in the
>>>> samples bundles.
>>>>
>>>> To shorten the story, after a long while of tinkering, I found that for
>>>> our purposes, ant worked better for us. Gradle imports the ant projects,
>>>> and allows us to call into them.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Fair enough, there’s only so much tinkering one can take, I’ve been
>>> through a fair bit of Gradle tinkering myself.
>>> (My hope is that one day OpenJDK + OpenJFX will build simply with ‘grade
>>> build', using Gradle’s support for native builds.  Especially on Windows
>>> where it would simplify things a lot if you can avoid dependencies on
>>> Cygwin or MinGW.  Gradle’s native support is still incubating so it is a
>>> bit early to go there, but I’ve used it recently for some Java +JNI
>>> projects on Linux, Mac, and Windows (with Visual Studio, not GCC) and it
>>> actually worked quite well.)
>>>
>>>       
>> We switched to gradle early on after a long time with a big pile'o ant
>> scripts. Major rework for that. We were limited by the gradle versions we
>> could get at the time. Some choices like what we could do in the apps dir
>> were limited by that. More major rework when we moved as much as we could
>> to OpenJFX. Now, if we had a dedicated build engineer we might be able to
>> rebuild our current gradle to use the new features. But as we only have
>> part time on about 3 guys willing to dive into that build mess that each
>> have a huge pile 'o bugs... :-)
>>
>>
>> --
>> David Hill<David.Hill at Oracle.com>
>> Java Embedded Development
>>
>> "A man's feet should be planted in his country, but his eyes should survey
>> the world."
>> -- George Santayana (1863 - 1952)
>>
>>
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