What does this mean for the future of JavaFX on iOS?
Sven Reimers
sven.reimers at gmail.com
Mon Apr 18 19:56:10 UTC 2016
Seems there are more forks out there..
https://github.com/bugvm/bugvm
Sven
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Felix Bembrick <felix.bembrick at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Good luck to you Erik. I totally agree with you and hope you succeed. If
> there's any way I can help, I will do just that.
>
> Felix
>
> > On 19 Apr 2016, at 04:39, Erik De Rijcke <derijcke.erik at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm currently looking if I can get some robovm fork kickstarted. (
> > https://github.com/FlexoVM/flexovm/issues/4 ).
> >
> > It's really a shame that for this one time Java has a real nice aot
> > llvm compiler, MS kills it. Being able to compile Java (or any
> > bytecode language) to a native, fast and small executable (especially
> > for arm/embedded use which does not require an Oracle license) would
> > be *really* cool. Let's see if we can continue to make this happen in
> > one way or another.
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Felix Bembrick
> > <felix.bembrick at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> So what AOT will you be using now? The last RoboVM AOT or something
> else?
> >>
> >>> On 19 Apr 2016, at 03:15, Johan Vos <johan.vos at gluonhq.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Indeed, this doesn't have any impact on JavaFX.
> >>> The Gluon tools are currently using the RoboVM AOT 1.8, which was the
> last open-source version.
> >>>
> >>> RoboVM delivered a whole set of products, including an AOT, but also a
> system that provides some JNI functionality, a set of bindings that create
> Java classes that have a 1-1 mapping to native iOS classes, and a whole
> "Studio" allowing developers to create applications.
> >>>
> >>> Only the AOT is relevant to us. We don't use the bindings, as we
> happen to have a great set of UI classes: the JavaFX platform. We don't
> need the studio, as we directly provide plugins for NetBeans, IntelliJ and
> Eclipse.
> >>>
> >>> The idea of JavaFX is to deliver a cross-platform UI for all devices.
> RoboVM took a different approach, as they mainly promoted creating an iOS
> specific UI (using the Java bindings to the native iOS UI components) and
> an Android specific UI.
> >>>
> >>> We had different views on a cross-platform UI (JavaFX) versus a
> platform-specific UI, but here is no doubt the RoboVM team consist of great
> developers and it is a real pity and shame they won't be able to continue
> working on their product.
> >>>
> >>> But for JavaFX and Gluon, it doesn't make a difference.
> >>>
> >>> - Johan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Steve Hannah <steve at weblite.ca>
> wrote:
> >>>> According to Gluon, they're not impacted by this.
> >>>> https://twitter.com/GluonHQ/status/721784161728471041
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Felix Bembrick <
> felix.bembrick at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> I just read this article which states that RoboVM is effectively
> "shutting down".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.voxxed.com/blog/2016/04/robovm/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Given that they seem to be a critical part of the puzzle that is
> making JavaFX viable on mobile platforms, what does this actually mean for
> that goal?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is there an alternative technology or product that can fill this
> void? Or is the final nail in the coffin for JavaFX to ever be a truly
> viable cross platform technology?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Felix
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Steve Hannah
> >>>> Web Lite Solutions Corp.
> >>>
>
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