Is JavaFX going to truly be a community project?

[Julian Jupiter]

Hi Pedro,

I also agree. JavaFX should be developed outside of any profit organization.

I'm not sure, maybe I'm quick to suggest this: perhaps, a foundation should
be created to foster the development of JavaFX. And anyone (same people
now, amd more) should be encouraged to participate. I'm not against Apache
& Eclipse (they are so fantastic orgs) but I think a foundation whose sole
purpose is to further the development of JavaFX would be better.

And I think this org should be in contant touch with OpenJDK team as well
as other initiatives the could help advance JavaFX (e.g. JSR 377).

Thank you.

Julian Jupiter

On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 8:38 PM John-Val Rose, <johnvalrose at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Pedro,
>
> I just happen to agree with you in this issue.
>
> But, out of all the possible new custodians of JavaFX, I have to say that
> I am always in awe of what Johan and Gluon have already contributed and
> accomplished.
>
> So how do we ensue that OpenJFX is truly “open”?
>
> I agree that even though Gluon are doing a fantastic job, JavaFX should
> not be a “Gluon product”.
>
> I think it’s a great move for Oracle to basically relinquish control of
> JavaFX - but to whom?
>
> I’m not familiar enough with FOSS projects to offer any sage advice but I
> totally agree that a “community” project has to be as open to everyone as
> possible and no person or entity should have a commercial advantage over
> others.
>
> So, basically I like your question, I don’t believe the current scenario
> is satisfactory but unfortunately I confess I can’t offer any suggestions
> of better scenarios.
>
> Graciously,
>
> John-Val Rose
>
> > On 1 Sep 2018, at 22:00, Pedro Duque Vieira <pedro.duquevieira at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > For JavaFX to start being, truly, a community project it is important
> that
> > it is perceived as a real community effort. Right now it's starting to
> look
> > more like it's changing hands, from being an Oracle project to being a
> > Gluon project.
> >
> > I don't have anything against Gluon, I'd say the same if for instance,
> > instead of Gluon it was JPro or Karakun, or whatever...
> >
> > Hosting the JavaFX docs, builds, installations, etc on a company owned
> site
> > or a company endorsed site sounds like a really bad idea. Which is what's
> > happening right now. If it's to be a community project it should be owned
> > by the community as a whole. As well as being perceived to be owned by
> the
> > community as a whole.
> >
> > Being a one company project will deter the contributions of other players
> > in the JavaFX space. Other players that also offer consultancy services,
> > and JavaFX products will have a big disadvantage towards the company
> > hosting the JavaFX assets and downloads. At the very minimum think about
> > the huge advantage this company will have in publicity when compared to
> the
> > others.
> >
> > A community project is a project where various players join efforts to
> > mutually benefit each other. As soon as this starts being a project
> that's
> > benefiting one particular company more than the others it ceases to be a
> > community project.
> >
> > I don't think that anyone would like to join in on the efforts in this
> > scenario.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Pedro Duque Vieira - https://www.pixelduke.com
>