Is JavaFX going to truly be a community project?

[Pedro Duque Vieira]

Yes, just a site with code on github would be enough, for example. Without
any publicity or endorsement to any particular company.

Jfxtras does this: http://jfxtras.org/ and the code of the site is on
github repository: https://github.com/JFXtras/jfxtras.github.com

Outside of this, Gluon can still offer consultancy, payed support for
javafx, javafx based products, etc.

I think this is the type of decisions that should be discussed among the
community before any action is taken.

Cheers,





On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 2:05 PM Werner Van Belle <werner at yellowcouch.org>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Just put it on github and let people fork it however they want.
> That would be "open".
>
> Werner,-
>
> PS: I _am_ seriously pissed at Oracle about this shit. I spend the last
> years specializing in their newest technology 'which they would never
> ever drop' and now they just drop it.
>
> On Sat, 2018-09-01 at 22:38 +1000, John-Val Rose wrote:
> > Hi Pedro,
> >
> > I just happen to agree with you in this issue.
> >
> > But, out of all the possible new custodians of JavaFX, I have to say
> > that I am always in awe of what Johan and Gluon have already
> > contributed and accomplished.
> >
> > So how do we ensue that OpenJFX is truly “open”?
> >
> > I agree that even though Gluon are doing a fantastic job, JavaFX
> > should not be a “Gluon product”.
> >
> > I think it’s a great move for Oracle to basically relinquish control
> > of JavaFX - but to whom?
> >
> > I’m not familiar enough with FOSS projects to offer any sage advice
> > but I totally agree that a “community” project has to be as open to
> > everyone as possible and no person or entity should have a commercial
> > advantage over others.
> >
> > So, basically I like your question, I don’t believe the current
> > scenario is satisfactory but unfortunately I confess I can’t offer
> > any suggestions of better scenarios.
> >
> > Graciously,
> >
> > John-Val Rose
> >
> > >
> > > On 1 Sep 2018, at 22:00, Pedro Duque Vieira <pedro.duquevieira at gmai
> > > l.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > For JavaFX to start being, truly, a community project it is
> > > important that
> > > it is perceived as a real community effort. Right now it's starting
> > > to look
> > > more like it's changing hands, from being an Oracle project to
> > > being a
> > > Gluon project.
> > >
> > > I don't have anything against Gluon, I'd say the same if for
> > > instance,
> > > instead of Gluon it was JPro or Karakun, or whatever...
> > >
> > > Hosting the JavaFX docs, builds, installations, etc on a company
> > > owned site
> > > or a company endorsed site sounds like a really bad idea. Which is
> > > what's
> > > happening right now. If it's to be a community project it should be
> > > owned
> > > by the community as a whole. As well as being perceived to be owned
> > > by the
> > > community as a whole.
> > >
> > > Being a one company project will deter the contributions of other
> > > players
> > > in the JavaFX space. Other players that also offer consultancy
> > > services,
> > > and JavaFX products will have a big disadvantage towards the
> > > company
> > > hosting the JavaFX assets and downloads. At the very minimum think
> > > about
> > > the huge advantage this company will have in publicity when
> > > compared to the
> > > others.
> > >
> > > A community project is a project where various players join efforts
> > > to
> > > mutually benefit each other. As soon as this starts being a project
> > > that's
> > > benefiting one particular company more than the others it ceases to
> > > be a
> > > community project.
> > >
> > > I don't think that anyone would like to join in on the efforts in
> > > this
> > > scenario.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
>


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Pedro Duque Vieira - https://www.pixelduke.com