MacOS Big Sur and OpenJFX on Arm Macs

[Johan Vos]

This is probably a toolchain issue indeed.
There shouldn't be a real difference between OpenJFX and other Mac
applications. It's probably (hopefully) just compiling/linking with a few
specific flags to set the CPU.

- Johan

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 2:51 PM Kevin Rushforth <kevin.rushforth at oracle.com>
wrote:

> At WWDC, Apple indicated that they have run the JDK on prototype Arm HW
> using Rosetta2. Once we get our hands on some HW we'll test JavaFX as
> well. I expect that it will run reasonably well.
>
> I think that an ARM port for JavaFX won't be too difficult, although I
> doubt the existence of Linux ARM for embedded platforms will help much
> with the Mac. Most of the work will be upgrading to Xcode 12 and
> producing universal (fat) binaries again, which we did back in the very
> early days for ppc and intel.
>
> As for a Metal port, we do plan to get started on that soon (we've done
> some very preliminary looking).
>
> -- Kevin
>
>
> On 7/1/2020 5:46 PM, Scott Palmer wrote:
> > JavaFX already runs on some Arm-based devices like the Raspberry Pi, so
> I expect an Arm-based port for new Macs won’t be that big of a job
> (relatively speaking)
> >
> > Hopefully by that time there will be a Metal-base rendering pipeline as
> well. The Metal-based pipeline for Swing seems to be coming along nicely.
> >
> > I don’t know if Oracle has access to one of the early developer boxes
> that runs macOS on arm or not. If they don’t, then a Java/Java FX port may
> not be available on day 1. That being said,  perhaps Rosetta 2 will run the
> JDK/JRE until a proper port is available. I don’t know if the JIT compiler
> will work with Rosetta though. If it doesn’t then that certainly makes a
> proper port more urgent.
> >
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >> On Jul 1, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Danny Gonzalez <
> danny.gonzalez at screamingfrog.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> Not sure if this is the correct place to direct this conversation but
> here goes.
> >>
> >> With the imminent arrival of Arm Macs in late 2020 running MacOS Big
> Sur, what are the plans to ensure that OpenJFX and Java will run on this
> platform?
> >>
> >> Are there plans to get the Developer Transition Kit to test on real
> hardware prior to the release of consumer hardware?
> >> Are there testers testing on MacOs beta?
> >>
> >> Will OpenJFX and Java be able to run natively in this new Arm Mac
> environment?
> >> Will OpenJFX and Java be able to run in the Rosetta emulator?
> >>
> >> We have many MacOS customers, many of whom will be early adopters and
> upgrade to the new Arm Macs so this could be a big issue for us.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Danny
> >>
> >>
>
>