Not really a nice comment but a real issue?

[Michael Strauß]

OpenJFX just doesn't feel like a community-driven project, in a large
part because of how contributors are told to "report" an issue to
Oracle. That's what you do as a customer, not as a contributor.
Contributors want to discuss issues and share their findings, and a
mailing list really is no substitute for an openly accessible issue
tracker like GitHub.

At this point in time and with the severely understaffed situation of
the OpenJFX project, I think fully embracing GitHub and moving issue
tracking and discussions over there would benefit the project
tremendously.

Am Sa., 20. März 2021 um 18:13 Uhr schrieb Philip Race <philip.race at oracle.com>:
>
> Oracle has a very different mind set about privacy than Google or Facebook.
> It might be very hard to convince the powers that be to add a "please
> sell my personal information" checkbox ..
>
> -phil.
>
> On 3/20/21 8:16 AM, Abossolo Foh Guy wrote:
> >> I'm surprised credit is considered important ... .
> >
> > You're right, but for some of your external contributors it's a
> > business model useful to communicate with their employers or patrons.
> > I tried to explain it in a Twitter post but without success :) GitHub
> > is like a vitrine where one can see the community working. To be
> > credited in the reprository is personnal satisfaction but it's also
> > like receiving "java-coins", a win-win strategy without additional
> > work from the owner since a gauge shows each contributor activity.
> >
> >> But FX never used the github bug tracker. ...
> > https://github.com/javafxports/openjdk-jfx, did. A really amazing
> > experience ! The new repository closed this first open window :(
> >
> > Guy.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > Le 2021-03-19 20:37, Philip Race a écrit :
> >> Interesting that there's no way to add an attachment (image or
> >> otherwise).
> >> I'll ask why that can't be made possible.
> >>
> >> I'm surprised credit is considered important but I think that the
> >> current way of doing things is
> >> more focused on protecting privacy of bug reporters and that they
> >> might instead want their email addresses advertised
> >> will quickly run into problems getting past that.
> >> There's even an assurance on the bug submission form that your
> >> personal info won't be shared.
> >>
> >> But FX never used the github bug tracker. It should never have been
> >> possible to submit bugs there.
> >>
> >>
> >> -phil.
> >>
> >> On 3/19/21 12:23 PM, John Neffenger wrote:
> >>> On 3/19/21 11:05 AM, Philip Race wrote:
> >>>> If this was important to him I don't understand why just a blog
> >>>> post and not a bug report ..
> >>>
> >>> If I had to guess, it might be because, in the age of GitHub, this
> >>> is not what people expect when they try to report a bug:
> >>>
> >>> Report a Bug or Request a Feature
> >>> https://bugreport.java.com/bugreport/
> >>>
> >>> There are two main problems:
> >>>
> >>> 1. You can't attach images.
> >>>
> >>> 2. You don't get credit.
> >>>
> >>> I speak from experience. I spent five years frustrated with a JavaFX
> >>> font bug, but it was only when I could properly format a report and
> >>> include images that I bothered to open this issue:
> >>>
> >>> Reduce color fringes in FreeType subpixel rendering
> >>> https://github.com/javafxports/openjdk-jfx/issues/229
> >>>
> >>> Formatting and images shouldn't matter, but two other people tried
> >>> to report that bug using the Oracle Web form, and both were closed
> >>> as "Not an Issue." You can send images later by e-mail, eventually,
> >>> but that's not explained anywhere.
> >>>
> >>> There was a brief window when the OpenJFX project accepted bug
> >>> reports on GitHub, but now it's back to the Oracle Web form. That
> >>> brief window is the reason I'm a contributor to the project now. I
> >>> understand the need for gate-keeping. We just shouldn't be too
> >>> surprised when people decide that the gate's too high.
> >>>
> >>> I think Oracle could fix the two problems and keep the Web form, and
> >>> we might get more quality bug reports instead of frustrated blog
> >>> posts. I also think that it would help a lot to enable the JIRA
> >>> markup[1] in the Java Bug System as Apache NetBeans has done. As an
> >>> example, I can't imagine trying to report a bug like the following
> >>> without formatting or in-line images:
> >>>
> >>> Attaching JavaFX Javadoc and Sources
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-3296
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>> https://jira.atlassian.com/secure/WikiRendererHelpAction.jspa?section=all
>