Provide Quit handler for system menu bar
Philip Race
philip.race at oracle.com
Tue Sep 20 17:57:29 UTC 2022
All of these requests seem to map to what we added to AWT in JDK 9.
We did this because there'd been Apple specific APIs that came in via the
Apple port but were very iffy in terms of what was supported and it was
not a good idea to formally export them from the new desktop module.
The java.awt.Desktop class was enhanced by the java.awt.desktop package
and all of these things are provided in a platform neutral way.
You just query whether the support is available.
These can even be used in a mixed AWT/FX application if you want a
solution now,
but FX could have its own version of these.
Nothing that mentions a platform (please!).
-phil
On 9/20/22 6:38 AM, Scott Palmer wrote:
> I always understood Alt+F4 as simply being a keyboard shortcut on
> Windows for closing the window of the active application. The same as
> clicking the close widget. I don’t think there is anything special
> about it. As far as being an equivalent to the macOS Quit action, I
> don’t think it is quite the same. Does an application even know the
> difference between a window closed with the widget vs. Alt+F4? CTRL+F4
> closes the current document window or tab - similar to Command-W on
> macOS.
>
> I’m not aware of any special handlers being called on Windows for
> these shortcuts other than what is called when the equivalent close
> widget is pressed. If I’m wrong about that, then sure, a quit handler
> for JavaFX could be wired in to the same mechanism automatically.
> Maybe Linux has an equivalent as well, I don’t know.
>
> While we are at it, custom handling for the ‘About’ menu item in the
> application menu is also needed, is it not?
>
> For now I’m currently using Jan Gassen’s port of NSMenuFX to hook into
> this stuff. https://github.com/0x4a616e/NSMenuFX
>
>
> Scott
>
>> On Sep 20, 2022, at 5:55 AM, John Hendrikx <john.hendrikx at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> What about Alt + F4 and Ctrl + F4 on Windows? Alt + F4 closes the
>> application (which works with JavaFX already) and Ctrl + F4 is
>> supposed to close a single window, but that doesn't work for JavaFX.
>>
>> Also very much in favor of Keeping the API platform neutral, that's
>> just how Java has worked since its inception.
>>
>> --John
>>
>> On 20/09/2022 06:25, Scott Palmer wrote:
>>> Windows applications often have an “Exit” menu item, but since it
>>> isn’t standardized like it is on macOS, calling a quit handler for
>>> it would need to be a manual step - but the exact same method for
>>> the quit handler could be called, leaving it up to the programmer to
>>> continue or not with the application exit depending on the return
>>> value. This manual coding isn’t a big deal since you would also need
>>> to have some app-specific handling to avoid making an Exit menu item
>>> on macOS, where it would look out of place.
>>>
>>> You could add a standard “requestExit()” method to Platform that you
>>> could manually bind to an Exit menu item on Windows or Linux, but it
>>> would be automatically called via an internal macOS Quit handler
>>> implementation. The implementation of Platform.requestExit() on
>>> *all* platforms would call a boolean method if one was registered
>>> and then conditionally call Platform.exit() depending on the return
>>> value, the default being to always exit if nothing was registered.
>>> On macOS it would pass on the value to veto the native Quit handler
>>> as needed. I haven’t checked, does Application.stop() get called on
>>> macOS if you exit via the Quit menu or Command-Q? If it doesn’t,
>>> that’s another benefit. This idea should probably be opt-in via
>>> some API or system property, I suppose it would have to be if it
>>> changes behaviour of having Application.stop() called in some
>>> circumstances. Or you can just make the setting of the handler
>>> function the “opt-in”.
>>>
>>> Btw, this reminds me of the long-standing request for system tray
>>> support, along with with various other features that have
>>> equivalents across multiple OS’, like showing progress on the dock
>>> icon, or a numbered badge (for notifications, or unread msgs, etc).
>>> I think there are already issues in Jira for these, maybe just as a
>>> general request to support some features that AWT/Swing has that JFX
>>> is still missing. Most of these features are available on both Mac
>>> and Windows, possibly Linux. It would be irritating to code to
>>> different APIs for each if it can be avoided, so I agree with going
>>> for a platform-neutral way.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>> On Sep 19, 2022, at 8:11 PM, Kevin Rushforth
>>>> <kevin.rushforth at oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't see us adding 100s of OS-specific API calls, but even if
>>>> we did, going down the path of exposing them as Mac APIs or Windows
>>>> APIs, doesn't really seem like the direction we want to go.
>>>> Whatever we do needs to balance the desire to integrate with, e.g.,
>>>> the macOS or Windows platform with a desire to leave the door open
>>>> for it to later be implemented on the other platform(s). And the
>>>> most cross-platform way to do that from an API point of view is by
>>>> defining API that delivers the desired functionality in as
>>>> platform-neutral a way as possible. It also needs to fit cleanly
>>>> into the existing API.
>>>>
>>>> So in the specific case of a quit handler, we could define a
>>>> platform API that an app could call to register a handler that gets
>>>> called if the platform quit menu is selected and is able to cancel
>>>> the Quit action(basically, that's what is being proposed). We could
>>>> decide to provide some way for an app to query whether it is
>>>> supported, but maybe we just don't need to worry about it in this
>>>> specific case. We could just document that it will get called when
>>>> the platform quit action is called, if there is such an action on
>>>> that platform. Other than maybe mentioning in the docs that the
>>>> macOS system menu "quit" action is an example of an action that
>>>> would invoke this, it doesn't need to be platform-specific. One
>>>> question to answer is whether we should just put this in the
>>>> Platform class (where we have other similar "global" application
>>>> state), the Application class (which has the life-cycle APIs), or
>>>> somewhere else (which might make sense if we wanted to define an
>>>> analog to the AWT Desktop class, although the existing Platform
>>>> class already has some APIs like this).
>>>>
>>>> -- Kevin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/19/2022 1:46 PM, Andy Goryachev wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you, Kevin. Your insightful feedback always pulls the
>>>>> discussion in the right direction.
>>>>>
>>>>> The initial problem we are facing is access to Mac menu in general
>>>>> and additional API specifically. I can see a possibility of
>>>>> extending the list of APIs that app devs would want on Mac
>>>>> growing, so there should be a better way to add them. Using hacks
>>>>> like com.apple.eawt, or system properties is probably not the best
>>>>> solution. Ideally, there should be away that does not require
>>>>> creative linking of stub classes on non-Mac platforms, i.e. we
>>>>> should be able to use a single code base for all the platforms.
>>>>>
>>>>> ConditionalFeature might work well internally for openjfx, but I
>>>>> don't think it is a good solution for actually exposing the
>>>>> platform APIs to the user.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, in order to provide platform-specific API in such a way that
>>>>> still allows for a single code base for multiple platform, and one
>>>>> that potentially scales to tens or hundreds of API calls, I see
>>>>> two solutions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. one start starts with a single entry point, like PlatformAPI,
>>>>> described earlier.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. a lookup-based approach, where the client code requests a
>>>>> (possibly fine-grained and narrowly defined) implementation from
>>>>> the system. For example:
>>>>>
>>>>> IMacMenu impl = PlatformAPI.lookup(IMacMenu.class);
>>>>>
>>>>> (where IMacMenu is an interface that, in this example, provides
>>>>> access to Mac menu, adding shutdown listeners, and so forth).
>>>>>
>>>>> if we are on windows, this method either returns null or throws an
>>>>> exception, if we are on Mac, we get a working instance (a
>>>>> singleton or a new instance each time, depending on the
>>>>> circumstances).
>>>>>
>>>>> This way we are free to extend or version the APIs without
>>>>> modifying the core classes.
>>>>>
>>>>> PlatformAPI.isSupported(IMacMenu.class) might provide a way to see
>>>>> whether the capability is present.
>>>>>
>>>>> The platform-specific interfaces like IMacMenu might in turn
>>>>> extend some base interface that provides introspection into common
>>>>> properties, such as version, description, possibly a list of other
>>>>> similar capabilities that the platform supports (may be a number
>>>>> of earlier versions?) and so forth.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> -andy
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *openjfx-dev <openjfx-dev-retn at openjdk.org> on behalf of
>>>>> Kevin Rushforth <kevin.rushforth at oracle.com>
>>>>> *Date: *Monday, 2022/09/19 at 09:33
>>>>> *To: *openjfx-dev at openjdk.org <openjfx-dev at openjdk.org>
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: Provide Quit handler for system menu bar
>>>>>
>>>>> I like the idea of looking at this holistically, even if we do end
>>>>> up adding such features one at a time.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for how to expose such an API, I don't much like the idea of
>>>>> exposing the underlying platform explicitly unless there is no
>>>>> viable alternative. A better approach is one where a feature is
>>>>> optional based on whether the platform you are running on supports
>>>>> that feature. Especially given, as you pointed out, that features
>>>>> that are only available in one platform today might make their way
>>>>> into other platforms tomorrow. As for how to let an application
>>>>> know whether they can use a particular API, we already have
>>>>> ConditionalFeature, so adding to that would be a reasonable thing
>>>>> to consider.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Kevin
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/19/2022 9:06 AM, Andy Goryachev wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for proposing a solution, Florian. I wonder if we
>>>>> should extrapolate the problem further. Given the fact that
>>>>> app developers always need access to platform specific APIs,
>>>>> be it integration with Mac menu, perhaps we should consider a
>>>>> way to do so in such a way that does not require various tricks.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, we might invent a way to query whether we are
>>>>> running on a certain platform and get the corresponding APIs.
>>>>> Let's say the class is PlatformAPI:
>>>>>
>>>>> These methods allow for querying whether the specific platform
>>>>> APIs are available
>>>>>
>>>>> PlatformAPI.isWindows();
>>>>>
>>>>> PlatformAPI.isMacOS();
>>>>>
>>>>> PlatformAPI.isLinux(); // isUnix()? isPosix() ?
>>>>>
>>>>> and these will actually return a service object that provides
>>>>> access to the APIs, or throws some kind of exception:
>>>>>
>>>>> IWindowsAPI PlatformAPI.getWindowsAPI();
>>>>>
>>>>> IMacOSAPI PlatformAPI.getMacOSAPI();
>>>>>
>>>>> the service object returned by one of these methods might
>>>>> provide further information about the platform version, as
>>>>> well as access to platform-specific APIs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another thought is perhaps we ought to think about expanding
>>>>> functionality that became available on every platform in the
>>>>> XXI century (example: going to sleep/hibernate). Possibly
>>>>> external shutdown via Mac menu or a signal discussed by the OP
>>>>> would be considered as platform-independent.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> -andy
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *openjfx-dev <openjfx-dev-retn at openjdk.org>
>>>>> <mailto:openjfx-dev-retn at openjdk.org> on behalf of Florian
>>>>> Kirmaier <florian.kirmaier at gmail.com>
>>>>> <mailto:florian.kirmaier at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Date: *Tuesday, 2022/09/13 at 08:11
>>>>> *To: *openjfx-dev at openjdk.java.net
>>>>> <openjfx-dev at openjdk.java.net>
>>>>> <mailto:openjfx-dev at openjdk.java.net>
>>>>> *Subject: *Provide Quit handler for system menu bar
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In one project, we have to handle the quit-logic for MacOS
>>>>> ourselves,
>>>>> when the <quit app> menu entry is used.
>>>>> As background information - this menu entry is set in the
>>>>> class com.sun.glass.ui.mac.MacApplication.
>>>>> It's basically hard coded. Currently, in this project, the
>>>>> menu entry doesn't work in some cases.
>>>>>
>>>>> My Solution would be:
>>>>>
>>>>> Provide a method "Platform.setQuiteHandler(Supplier<Boolean>)"
>>>>> This handler is called when quit <appname> from the menu is
>>>>> called.
>>>>> If the handler returns true, all windows are closed.
>>>>> Otherwise, nothing happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would look like the following:
>>>>> ```
>>>>> /**
>>>>> * Sets the handler to be called when the application is about
>>>>> to quit.
>>>>> * Currently, this can only happen on MacOS.
>>>>> *
>>>>> * This handler is called, when the user selects
>>>>> * the "Quit <appname>" from the application menu.
>>>>> * When the provided handler returns true,
>>>>> * the application will close all windows.
>>>>> * If the handler returns false, the application will not quit.
>>>>> *
>>>>> * @param The new quit handler.
>>>>> */
>>>>> public static void setQuitHandler(Supplier x) {
>>>>> ...
>>>>> }
>>>>> ```
>>>>> I've created a ticket for this topic.
>>>>> https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-8293700
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've got a working version for this change.
>>>>>
>>>>> According to Kevin Rushforth this need a prior dicussion on
>>>>> the mailing list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any opinion regarding this?
>>>>>
>>>>> I could provide a pullrequest, if someone is interested.
>>>>>
>>>>> Florian Kirmaier
>>>>>
>>>>
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