[External] : Re: Proposal: Bump the minimum version of macOS for which we target JavaFX

[Kevin Rushforth]

One more reason why we need to bump the minimum is that Xcode 14 no 
longer supports deploying to 10.12, and we will need to update to Xcode 
14 relatively soon.

So the only remaining question is whether to choose Option 1 or Option 
2. I haven't heard any objection to going straight to macOS 11.0 as the 
minimum for JavaFX 12, so I'll prepare a PR for Option 1 and send it out 
shortly.

-- Kevin



On 5/11/2023 4:37 PM, Scott Palmer wrote:
> I think Option 1 makes the most sense. Specially since JDK 21 is LTS. Do we want to be stuck with OS 10.x through the entire LTS period?
>
> Scott
>
>> On May 11, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Kevin Rushforth <kevin.rushforth at oracle.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the additional info. I had meant to look it up and add it prior to sending it out, but hit "send" too soon.
>>
>> My preference would be Option 1: change the minimum to macOS 11.0 in JavaFX 21.
>>
>> If there are some significant concerns over doing that, we could go with Option 2 as a fallback: change the minimum to 10.14 in 21 and to 11.0 in 22.
>>
>> -- Kevin
>>
>>
>> On 5/11/2023 12:00 PM, Martin Fox wrote:
>>>> My preference is to change the minimum version for Mac / x64 to be macOS 11.0, matching both the currently oldest version of macOS supported by Apple, and also unifying the minimum for the two chip architectures.
>>> So no one else has to look this up:
>>>
>>> The last security update for macOS 10.12 was in September of 2019. It was released in 2016.
>>> The last security update for macOS 10.14 was in July of 2021. It was released in 2018.
>>>
>>> macOS 11.0 was released in November of 2020. Support is likely to end this year.
>>>
>>> 11.0 could be installed on MacBooks from 2013 and desktops from 2014 (with some exceptions). If there’s a Mac out there that just can’t upgrade to 11.0 that machine is getting a little long in the tooth. FWIW I’m using an iMac from late 2017 and running the latest OS just fine.
>>>
>>> I think ditching 10.x is the right move.
>>>
>>> Martin