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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">To clarify,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">some behaviors cannot be decoupled from the skin</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">Imagine a specific skin that has a Node that accepts a user input. A scroll bar, a button, or a region with a some function. Unless this element is proclaimed as must-have
for any skin and codified via some new public API (MySkin.getSomeElement()), it is specific to that particular skin and that particular behavior.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">Another example is when we try to extend a core control by extending its default skin and adding some additional state, linked to, again, a new input element in the new skin.
This additional state is unknown to the core behavior, so we can’t simply bolt it on the existing behavior - both skin and the behavior must be extended.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">The opposite example: when a custom skin *<b>removes</b>* some input element, which might break the existing behavior which relies on the existing of the removed element.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">Does it make sense?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">For people listening in: please do not hesitate to offer your opinion on the subject. We are trying to come up with a solution for *<b>you</b>*, so your feedback is extremely
important. It might look like John and I are fighting, but we really are trying to find the common ground.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">-andy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Andy Goryachev <andy.goryachev@oracle.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, November 6, 2023 at 11:32<br>
<b>To: </b>John Hendrikx <john.hendrikx@gmail.com>, openjfx-dev@openjdk.org <openjfx-dev@openjdk.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Public Behavior API proposal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">Dear John:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">Thank you for providing these proposals!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">Do I understand correctly that the idea of translating input events into control-specific events and bubbling them up is now gone?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">In “Goals” -</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">Allow changing the skin of a control without having to recreate behavior</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">As we discussed before, some behaviors cannot be decoupled from the skin. This alone should disqualify the proposal from the start. Perhaps choosing a more complex control
rather than a Button for a proof of concept would have been a better starting point?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">Right now I don’t know what to do - do you want me to repeat the same arguments and explanations?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">Please advise.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">Thank you</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">-andy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">openjfx-dev <openjfx-dev-retn@openjdk.org> on behalf of John Hendrikx <john.hendrikx@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 18:05<br>
<b>To: </b>openjfx-dev@openjdk.org <openjfx-dev@openjdk.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Public Behavior API proposal</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>As promised, a public Behavior API proposal.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:#1F2328">Summary:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:#1F2328">Introduce a new </span><code><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Menlo;color:#1F2328">Behavior</span></code><span style="color:#1F2328"> interface that can be set on a control to replace its current behavior. The new behavior
can be fully custom or composed (or later subclassed) from a default behavior. Some default behaviors will be provided as part of this proposal, but not all.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:#1F2328">See here: <a href="https://gist.github.com/hjohn/293f3b0ec98562547d49832a2ce56fe7">
https://gist.github.com/hjohn/293f3b0ec98562547d49832a2ce56fe7</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:#1F2328">--John</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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