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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">Dear Martin:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">It's hard to say. How does it work in Swing?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">There is also
<a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Accessibility/ARIA/Roles/radio_role">
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Accessibility/ARIA/Roles/radio_role</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">I always felt that the focus management in JavaFX is underdeveloped: multiple focused nodes, nodes getting simultaneous input, lack of coherent geometry-based focus traversal
policy, and a lack of public APIs for a custom focus traversal policy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">Are there any ideas?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">-andy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">openjfx-dev <openjfx-dev-retn@openjdk.org> on behalf of Martin Fox <martin@martinfox.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 17:58<br>
<b>To: </b>John Hendrikx <john.hendrikx@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>openjfx-dev <openjfx-dev@openjdk.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: ToggleButton behavior<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I took a look at the <a href="https://www.w3.org/wiki/RadioButton">W3C accessibility guidelines for radio button groups</a> since that’s the closest thing I could find to a group of ToggleButtons. The W3C
suggests that Tab/Shift+Tab takes you in and out of the group and the arrow keys navigate within the group with wrap-around. Based on that (3) is correct.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">That’s where the W3C guidance ends; a single radio button doesn’t make much sense so it’s not even mentioned. I would expect a single ungrouped ToggleButton to navigate like a checkbox so (1) seems wrong.
A group with just one ToggleButton is an odd thing so (2) could go either way.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On Dec 1, 2023, at 11:21 PM, John Hendrikx <john.hendrikx@gmail.com> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">In my exploration of a potential Behavior API, I discovered this oddity in how ToggleButtons work.<br>
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1. If you have a single ToggleButton that is not part of a ToggleGroup, you can't navigate away from it with the arrow keys, only by using Tab or Shift-Tab.<br>
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2. If you have that same single ToggleButton, but it does have a group (a group of one) then you CAN navigate away from it with the arrow keys.<br>
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3. When you have two ToggleButtons, both part of the same group, then you can only navigate away from the group with Tab or Shift-Tab again, as the arrow keys will loop back to the first/last button when the end of the group is reached.<br>
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I get the impression at least one of these is incorrect.<br>
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I mean, either ToggleButtons should always loop, even if it is a group of one, meaning (2) would be incorrect...<br>
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Or... ToggleButtons should never loop, in which case (1) and (3) are incorrect...<br>
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Or... Single ToggleButtons (grouped or not) behave differently and don't do looping, in which case (1) is incorrect<br>
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Thoughts?<br>
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--John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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