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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">Hi there,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">Thank you Robert for your feedback! As a fellow application and custom component developer, I can't wait for this feature to get in.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">I wonder if anyone else have any objections or feedback, specifically John Hendrikx and Martin Fox. I hope the new proposal addresses the concerns you've raised earlier (support for stateless
behaviors and explicit priority of event handlers in Controls), and we can move forward with the feature.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">-andy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">openjfx-dev <openjfx-dev-retn@openjdk.org> on behalf of Robert Lichtenberger <r.lichtenberger@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, March 11, 2024 at 23:23<br>
<b>To: </b>openjfx-dev@openjdk.org <openjfx-dev@openjdk.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Proposal: Public InputMap (v2)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>I've had a look into the proposal and I like it a lot.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I've had numerous encounters with "little tweaks" to keyboard handling and/or behaviour that I had to work around, all of which would (as far as I can tell) have been avoidable, if this API were in existence.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>So while there is quite some "API surface", as an application developer I can't wait to see this happening. It will go a long way to make JavaFX more easily usable.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>--Robert<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Am 11.03.24 um 16:22 schrieb Andy Goryachev:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121">Dear JavaFX developers:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121">Thank you all for your feedback on my earlier Behavior/InputMap proposal [6], [7]. There was some positive reaction to the idea of allowing for easy customization of JavaFX controls behavior,
as well as some push back. Some of the objections were:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light"">desire for some static behavior to avoid the per-instance penalty</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#212121;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light"">clearer separation of concerns between controls, skins, and behaviors</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#212121;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light"">desire to have some sort of public API for behaviors</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#212121;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light"">need for addressing an issue with the event handler execution order between application and skins</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121">I would like to restart the discussion by submitting the updated proposal [0] which addresses the issues raised earlier. The new proposal retains the idea of allowing wider customization of
key mappings via the InputMap. The new features include:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light"">separation of SkinInputMap from the control's InputMap</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#212121;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light"">enabling static skin input maps for stateless behaviors</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#212121;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light"">explicit priority levels for event handlers and key mappings created by the application and by the skin</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121">The ideas put forth in this proposal have been validated with the proof-of-concept migration of some non-trivial controls:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light"">complex popup-like controls: ComboBox, ColorPicker, DatePicker</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#212121;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light"">complex text input controls: PasswordField, TextArea, TextField</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#212121;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light"">control with a stateless behavior: TabPane</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121">as well as a brand new RichTextArea control being incubated [8].</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121">Please take a look at the proposal [0], a list of discussion points [1], and the API Specification (javadoc) [2]. While the proposed API is ready for review, it isn't complete nor set in stone.
We are looking for feedback, and will update the proposal based on the suggestions we receive from the community. We encourage you to comment either in the mailing list, or by leaving comments inline in a draft pull request [3].</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121">For context, the links to the original RFE [4] and the earlier proposals [6], [7] are provided below.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121">What do you think?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121">-andy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121">References</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121">[0] Proposal:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://github.com/andy-goryachev-oracle/Test/blob/main/doc/InputMap/InputMapV2.md" title="https://github.com/andy-goryachev-oracle/Test/blob/main/doc/InputMap/InputMapV2.md"><span style="color:#0078D7">https://github.com/andy-goryachev-oracle/Test/blob/main/doc/InputMap/InputMapV2.md</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121">[1] Discussion points:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://github.com/andy-goryachev-oracle/Test/blob/main/doc/InputMap/InputMapV2-Discussion.md" title="https://github.com/andy-goryachev-oracle/Test/blob/main/doc/InputMap/InputMapV2-Discussion.md"><span style="color:#0078D7">https://github.com/andy-goryachev-oracle/Test/blob/main/doc/InputMap/InputMapV2-Discussion.md</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121">[2] API specification (javadoc):<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://cr.openjdk.org/~angorya/InputMapV2/javadoc/" title="https://cr.openjdk.org/~angorya/InputMapV2/javadoc/"><span style="color:#0078D7">https://cr.openjdk.org/~angorya/InputMapV2/javadoc/</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121">[3] Draft Pull Request for API comments and feedback:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://github.com/openjdk/jfx/pull/1395" title="https://github.com/openjdk/jfx/pull/1395"><span style="color:#0078D7">https://github.com/openjdk/jfx/pull/1395</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121">[4] Public InputMap RFE:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-8314968" title="https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-8314968"><span style="color:#0078D7">https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-8314968</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121">[5] Documenting behaviors (WIP):<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://github.com/openjdk/jfx/tree/master/doc-files/behavior" title="https://github.com/openjdk/jfx/tree/master/doc-files/behavior"><span style="color:#0078D7">https://github.com/openjdk/jfx/tree/master/doc-files/behavior</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121">[6] Earlier proposal:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://github.com/andy-goryachev-oracle/Test/blob/main/doc/InputMap/BehaviorInputMapProposal.md" title="https://github.com/andy-goryachev-oracle/Test/blob/main/doc/InputMap/BehaviorInputMapProposal.md"><span style="color:#0078D7">https://github.com/andy-goryachev-oracle/Test/blob/main/doc/InputMap/BehaviorInputMapProposal.md</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121">[7] Earlier proposal in the OpenJFX mailing list:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://mail.openjdk.org/pipermail/openjfx-dev/2023-September/042819.html" title="https://mail.openjdk.org/pipermail/openjfx-dev/2023-September/042819.html"><span style="color:#0078D7">https://mail.openjdk.org/pipermail/openjfx-dev/2023-September/042819.html</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16 Light";color:#212121">[8] RichTextArea (Incubator)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://github.com/andy-goryachev-oracle/Test/blob/rich.jep.review/doc/RichTextArea/RichTextArea.md" title="https://github.com/andy-goryachev-oracle/Test/blob/rich.jep.review/doc/RichTextArea/RichTextArea.md"><span style="color:#0078D7">https://github.com/andy-goryachev-oracle/Test/blob/rich.jep.review/doc/RichTextArea/RichTextArea.md</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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