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    There's some hard-coding of names to files in WindowsFontMap.java<br>
    Maybe that's part of it, but its very much a guess.<br>
    It would be interesting to try a build which excludes using that
    pure "optimization"<br>
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    -phil.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/20/24 1:12 PM, Philip Race wrote:<br>
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      That just looks like prism.verbose output<br>
      I see someone suggested prism.debugfonts but I don't see that any
      results were ever provided.<br>
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      -phil.<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/20/24 1:08 PM, Christopher
        Schnick wrote:<br>
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        <p>Hey Phil,</p>
        <p>the linked GitHub comment has debugfonts output hidden in the
          comment. It looks like this:</p>
        <p><font face="monospace">Prism pipeline init order: d3d sw<br>
            Using Double Precision Marlin Rasterizer<br>
            Using dirty region optimizations<br>
            Not using texture mask for primitives<br>
            Not forcing power of 2 sizes for textures<br>
            Using hardware CLAMP_TO_ZERO mode<br>
            Opting in for HiDPI pixel scaling<br>
            Prism pipeline name = com.sun.prism.d3d.D3DPipeline<br>
            Loading D3D native library ...<br>
                    succeeded.<br>
            D3DPipelineManager: Created D3D9Ex device<br>
            Direct3D initialization succeeded<br>
            (X) Got class = class com.sun.prism.d3d.D3DPipeline<br>
            Initialized prism pipeline: com.sun.prism.d3d.D3DPipeline<br>
            Maximum supported texture size: 16384<br>
            Maximum texture size clamped to 4096<br>
            OS Information:<br>
                    Windows version 10.0 build 22631<br>
            D3D Driver Information:<br>
                    Intel(R) Iris(R) Xe Graphics<br>
                    \\.\DISPLAY1<br>
                    Driver igd10iumd64.dll, version 30.0.101.3118<br>
                    Pixel Shader version 3.0<br>
                    Device : ven_8086, dev_46A8, subsys_00631414<br>
                    Max Multisamples supported: 4<br>
             vsync: true vpipe: true<br>
            Loading FontFactory
            com.sun.javafx.font.directwrite.DWFactory<br>
            Subpixel: enabled<br>
            No match for name null in C:\WINDOWS\Fonts\segoeui.ttf<br>
            No match for name null in C:\WINDOWS\Fonts\segoeuib.ttf<br>
            new alphas with length = 16384<br>
            new alphas with length = 20480<br>
            new alphas with length = 61440</font></p>
        <p>The comment also contains information about the system and
          fonts.<font face="monospace"><br>
          </font></p>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 20/12/2024 22:02, Philip Race
          wrote:<br>
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          Very odd. Possibilities :<br>
          - font mixup :  the glyph ID is for a different font.<br>
          - cmap bug : the incorrect glyph ID is used for the codepoint.<br>
          - the font is a unicode variable font something goes wrong as
          a result - I doubt this one as the IDs should be the same.<br>
          - something else  :-)<br>
          <br>
          Is the D3D pipeline being used ? <br>
          What's the user locale as shown by windows ?<br>
          <br>
          To get some idea of what fonts are being used they could run
          with -Dprism.debugfonts=true <br>
          <br>
          -phil.<br>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/20/24 12:48 PM, Christopher
            Schnick wrote:<br>
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            <p>So as a follow-up to this, this is a general JavaFX issue
              and not related to a certain application. You can find
              references to this on reddit: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/JavaFX/comments/1hhu0d5/bugs_with_scene_builder_v_2400/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.reddit.com/r/JavaFX/comments/1hhu0d5/bugs_with_scene_builder_v_2400/</a>
              and on GitHub with some verbose and debugfonts output: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/JabRef/jabref/issues/11755#issuecomment-2403606223" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/JabRef/jabref/issues/11755#issuecomment-2403606223</a>
              . It also seems related to this issue: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-8242617" moz-do-not-send="true">https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-8242617</a><br>
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            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/12/2024 18:43,
              Christopher Schnick wrote:<br>
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              <p>I'm not able to reproduce it, but some of my users are.
                If anyone who knows the font renderer maybe wants
                additional information or has some ideas on what the
                users can try to either fix or diagnose the root cause,
                I can relay that request to them.</p>
              <p>I can ask them to try other JavaFX applications, but
                either way how that goes, it doesn't show the cause.<br>
              </p>
              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/12/2024 18:37, Andy
                Goryachev wrote:<br>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">I
                      might suggest trying to run some other JavaFX
                      application using the same setup.  Or better yet,
                      if you can come up with a short reproducer, please
                      file a bug.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">-andy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
                              </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">openjfx-dev
                              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:openjfx-dev-retn@openjdk.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><openjfx-dev-retn@openjdk.org></a>
                              on behalf of Andy Goryachev <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:andy.goryachev@oracle.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><andy.goryachev@oracle.com></a><br>
                              <b>Date: </b>Wednesday, December 4, 2024
                              at 09:20<br>
                              <b>To: </b>Christopher Schnick <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:crschnick@xpipe.io" moz-do-not-send="true"><crschnick@xpipe.io></a>,
                              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:openjfx-dev@openjdk.org" moz-do-not-send="true">openjfx-dev@openjdk.org</a>
                              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:openjfx-dev@openjdk.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><openjfx-dev@openjdk.org></a><br>
                              <b>Subject: </b>Re: Windows default font
                              glyphs are rendered wrong on some systems<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">I've
                              never seen this...  what is the font that
                              causes the issue?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16"">-andy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Iosevka Fixed SS16""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">openjfx-dev <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:openjfx-dev-retn@openjdk.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><openjfx-dev-retn@openjdk.org></a>
                                      on behalf of Christopher Schnick <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:crschnick@xpipe.io" moz-do-not-send="true"><crschnick@xpipe.io></a><br>
                                      <b>Date: </b>Monday, November 25,
                                      2024 at 02:44<br>
                                      <b>To: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:openjfx-dev@openjdk.org" moz-do-not-send="true">openjfx-dev@openjdk.org</a>
                                      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:openjfx-dev@openjdk.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><openjfx-dev@openjdk.org></a><br>
                                      <b>Subject: </b>Windows default
                                      font glyphs are rendered wrong on
                                      some systems</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hello,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p>for some of our users, the font
                                  glyphs of the default Windows font are
                                  wrong by an offset of +2. E.g. the
                                  letter D is rendered as F, the symbol
                                  - is rendered as /, and so on ...
                                  However, the glyph spacings and
                                  kernings are using the correct values
                                  for the original letter, only the
                                  actual glyph itself is wrong. This is
                                  happening on the latest 24-ea build on
                                  Windows 11, but also occurred on
                                  version 21 a while ago. I wasn't able
                                  to reproduce it myself, only some
                                  users were.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">This has
                                    happened now for multiple users of
                                    our application, so I figured to
                                    report it (Didn't find this in the
                                    bug tracker). </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p>Here is there issue, next to how it
                                  should look like:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><img width="1289" height="713" style="width:13.427in;height:7.427in" id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:part1.AiJ1HfAW.AAR2MV3h@oracle.com" class=""></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p><img width="1282" height="752" style="width:13.3541in;height:7.8333in" id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:part2.k7GGXNJs.Dj80LYfF@oracle.com" class=""><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p>(It is in danish because the user
                                  played around with the language
                                  settings to troubleshoot)<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p>There was no explicit -fx-font set,
                                  so the application uses the default
                                  one. When the users change to using
                                  -fx-font: Roboto, which is bundled
                                  with our application, the glyphs are
                                  rendered normally. So this issue is
                                  specific to certain fonts.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p>If there's any additional information
                                  required, I can relay that request to
                                  our affected users.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <span style="font-size:12.0pt">Best<br>
                                    Christopher Schnick </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p>(I resent this mail as it got stuck
                                  in the moderation queue for being too
                                  big due to me accidentally pasting the
                                  screenshot as a .bmp)<o:p></o:p></p>
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