C++ roadmap

[Samuel Audet]

Yes, we all have work to do. I have been thinking about what to reply, 
if anything... You know, GraalVM is starting to find that my work is 
useful and I do feel that that project has a potentially brighter future 
than OpenJDK:
     https://github.com/oracle/graal/search?q=bytedeco

To me, OpenJDK seems stuck in trying to cater to all existing users, 
instead of trying to propose them better solutions that they might not 
have even thought about. GraalVM doesn't seem constrained by this.

For what it's worth, I'll keep an eye on this mailing list, but given 
that I only seem to be offending people around here, I don't see the 
point into trying to contribute any further either.

Samuel

On 8/21/19 10:39 PM, Brian Goetz wrote:
> Look, it's quite simple.  This list is for coordination of those who are 
> contributing to the project.  If you want to contribute, you know how. 
> But what you seem to want is to run the project and tell everyone what 
> their priorities should be.  That's not how any of this works, and 
> you've been told that several times already.
> 
> You've tried hard to influence the direction and priorities (which is 
> fine to do, if you do it constructively), and have come up short.  Has 
> you considered the reason is simply that your ideas aren't as great as 
> you think?  Or that you're just not doing a good job of communicating 
> why you think this is the most important thing we should be working on? 
> Or that you just haven't built enough credibility in this community, 
> having not actually done any work here?  After all, despite many tries, 
> you have gained little influence over those actually doing the work.
> 
> In any case, it's time to either disagree and commit, or stop getting in 
> the way of those doing the work.  Whining about "broken community" isn't 
> helpful (and this surely isn't the place to do it; you could have showed 
> up at the OpenJDK Committers Workshop to discuss it.)  It's possible, 
> after making more significant contributions, you will gain more 
> influence, and have better luck getting your ideas accepted.  But 
> expecting to have influence before you've contributed anything is pure 
> entitlement-think.
> 
> In any case, I don't think there's any point in further 
> meta-discussion.  We have work to do.