From dalibor.topic at googlemail.com Sat May 10 23:19:08 2008 From: dalibor.topic at googlemail.com (Dalibor Topic) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 23:19:08 -0700 Subject: CFV: Project sponsorship: Portable GUI Backends Message-ID: <985bee770805102319y7ca10970vdc498b7c7a7fc0ac@mail.gmail.com> Question: Should the Porters' Group sponsor the proposed Portable GUI Backends Project [1]? Please cast your vote by replying, publicly, to this message with either Vote: yes or Vote: no as the first line of the message body. You may, at your option, indicate the reason for your decision on subsequent lines. Votes must be cast in the open; votes sent as private replies will not be counted. The sponsorship decision will be made by a simple majority vote of the Group's Members. Votes are due by midnight UTC May 24th. As an optimization, if an absolute majority of the Group's Members votes one way or the other prior to that time then the decision may be rendered earlier. Only Members of the Porters' Group are eligible to vote on this decision. The current Members are: David Herron Tom Marble Mark Reinhold Dalibor Topic Once a decision has been made the votes will be summarized and reported to this list and also to discuss at openjdk.java.net. cheers, dalibor topic [1] http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/announce/2008-May/000048.html From dalibor.topic at googlemail.com Sat May 10 23:25:20 2008 From: dalibor.topic at googlemail.com (Dalibor Topic) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 23:25:20 -0700 Subject: CFV: Project sponsorship: Portable GUI Backends In-Reply-To: <985bee770805102319y7ca10970vdc498b7c7a7fc0ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <985bee770805102319y7ca10970vdc498b7c7a7fc0ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <985bee770805102325g7066cfb4r1de3bcaadf054d8c@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Dalibor Topic wrote: > Question: Should the Porters' Group sponsor the proposed Portable > GUI Backends Project [1]? > Vote: yes. Long overdue, my apologies for getting this one out this late. cheers, dalibor topic From David.Herron at Sun.COM Sun May 11 07:35:33 2008 From: David.Herron at Sun.COM (David Herron) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 07:35:33 -0700 Subject: CFV: Project sponsorship: Portable GUI Backends In-Reply-To: <985bee770805102325g7066cfb4r1de3bcaadf054d8c@mail.gmail.com> References: <985bee770805102319y7ca10970vdc498b7c7a7fc0ac@mail.gmail.com> <985bee770805102325g7066cfb4r1de3bcaadf054d8c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48270435.7040206@sun.com> Dalibor Topic wrote: > On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Dalibor Topic > wrote: > >> Question: Should the Porters' Group sponsor the proposed Portable >> GUI Backends Project [1]? >> >> > > Vote: yes. > > Long overdue, my apologies for getting this one out this late. > > cheers, > dalibor topic > Vote: Yes And, hopefully it would make it easier to port to OS's that don't use X11 (OS X anyone?) not just the embedded devices. - David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/porters-dev/attachments/20080511/f340e1ac/attachment.html From revol at free.fr Sun May 11 08:28:53 2008 From: revol at free.fr (=?windows-1252?q?Fran=E7ois?= Revol) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 17:28:53 +0200 CEST Subject: CFV: Project sponsorship: Portable GUI Backends In-Reply-To: <48270435.7040206@sun.com> Message-ID: <3888578048-BeMail@laptop> > >> Question: Should the Porters' Group sponsor the proposed Portable > >> GUI Backends Project [1]? > >> > >> > > > > Vote: yes. > > > > Long overdue, my apologies for getting this one out this late. > > > > cheers, > > dalibor topic > > > > Vote: Yes > > And, hopefully it would make it easier to port to OS's that don't use > X11 (OS X anyone?) not just the embedded devices. And Haiku \o/ If I could vote I'd vote yes :) Fran?ois. From Dalibor.Topic at Sun.COM Sun May 11 09:18:41 2008 From: Dalibor.Topic at Sun.COM (Dalibor Topic) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 09:18:41 -0700 Subject: CFV: Project sponsorship: Portable GUI Backends In-Reply-To: <48270435.7040206@sun.com> References: <985bee770805102319y7ca10970vdc498b7c7a7fc0ac@mail.gmail.com> <985bee770805102325g7066cfb4r1de3bcaadf054d8c@mail.gmail.com> <48270435.7040206@sun.com> Message-ID: <48271C61.6070709@sun.com> David Herron schrieb: > > > Dalibor Topic wrote: >> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Dalibor Topic >> wrote: >> >>> Question: Should the Porters' Group sponsor the proposed Portable >>> GUI Backends Project [1]? >>> >>> >> >> Vote: yes. >> >> Long overdue, my apologies for getting this one out this late. >> >> cheers, >> dalibor topic >> > > Vote: Yes > > And, hopefully it would make it easier to port to OS's that don't use > X11 (OS X anyone?) not just the embedded devices. > Thank you for your vote! cheers, dalibor topic -- ******************************************************************* Dalibor Topic Java F/OSS Ambassador http://openjdk.java.net Sun Microsystems GmbH mailto:Dalibor.Topic at sun.com Nagelsweg 55 D-20097 Hamburg Sitz der Gesellschaft: Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Amtsgericht M?nchen: HRB 161028 Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Thomas Schr?der, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland B?mer Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin H?ring From mr at sun.com Sun May 11 19:53:01 2008 From: mr at sun.com (Mark Reinhold) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 19:53:01 -0700 Subject: CFV: Project sponsorship: Portable GUI Backends In-Reply-To: dalibor.topic@googlemail.com; Sat, 10 May 2008 23:19:08 PDT; <985bee770805102319y7ca10970vdc498b7c7a7fc0ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080512025301.D57511851@callebaut.niobe.net> > Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 23:19:08 -0700 > From: dalibor.topic at googlemail.com > Question: Should the Porters' Group sponsor the proposed Portable > GUI Backends Project [1]? Vote: yes - Mark From dalibor.topic at googlemail.com Mon May 12 08:10:36 2008 From: dalibor.topic at googlemail.com (Dalibor Topic) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:10:36 -0700 Subject: CFV: Project sponsorship: Portable GUI Backends In-Reply-To: <20080512025301.D57511851@callebaut.niobe.net> References: <985bee770805102319y7ca10970vdc498b7c7a7fc0ac@mail.gmail.com> <20080512025301.D57511851@callebaut.niobe.net> Message-ID: <985bee770805120810s77d0089boaf6a0c9ccdf0b03f@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Mark Reinhold wrote: > > Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 23:19:08 -0700 > > From: dalibor.topic at googlemail.com > > > > Question: Should the Porters' Group sponsor the proposed Portable > > GUI Backends Project [1]? > > Vote: yes > Thank you for your vote, Mark! cheers, dalibor topic From Dalibor.Topic at Sun.COM Mon May 12 08:37:21 2008 From: Dalibor.Topic at Sun.COM (Dalibor Topic) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:37:21 -0700 Subject: CFV: Project sponsorship: Portable GUI Backends In-Reply-To: <985bee770805102319y7ca10970vdc498b7c7a7fc0ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <985bee770805102319y7ca10970vdc498b7c7a7fc0ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48286431.6040508@sun.com> Dalibor Topic schrieb: > Question: Should the Porters' Group sponsor the proposed Portable > GUI Backends Project [1]? > The porters Group has decided to sponsor the Project, with three out of four Members voting to sponsor the project. Since that's an absolute majority of the Group's Members, the vote outcome wouldn't change any more if the vote went on until the end of the voting period, so as the Group's Moderator, I declare the vote to be over. Contratulations to Roman and Mario, and best of luck with your Project. Mark Reinhold will get in touch with you to help you get set up. cheers, dalibor topic -- ******************************************************************* Dalibor Topic Java F/OSS Ambassador http://openjdk.java.net Sun Microsystems GmbH mailto:Dalibor.Topic at sun.com Nagelsweg 55 D-20097 Hamburg Sitz der Gesellschaft: Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Amtsgericht M?nchen: HRB 161028 Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Thomas Schr?der, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland B?mer Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin H?ring From gnu_andrew at member.fsf.org Mon May 12 15:19:17 2008 From: gnu_andrew at member.fsf.org (Andrew John Hughes) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 23:19:17 +0100 Subject: CFV: Project sponsorship: Portable GUI Backends In-Reply-To: <48286431.6040508@sun.com> References: <985bee770805102319y7ca10970vdc498b7c7a7fc0ac@mail.gmail.com> <48286431.6040508@sun.com> Message-ID: <17c6771e0805121519v65500ebcsbb90b6cbf885067c@mail.gmail.com> On 12/05/2008, Dalibor Topic wrote: > Dalibor Topic schrieb: > > > Question: Should the Porters' Group sponsor the proposed Portable > > GUI Backends Project [1]? > > > > > The porters Group has decided to sponsor the Project, with three out of > four Members voting > to sponsor the project. > > Since that's an absolute majority of the Group's Members, the vote outcome > wouldn't change > any more if the vote went on until the end of the voting period, so as the > Group's Moderator, > I declare the vote to be over. > > Contratulations to Roman and Mario, and best of luck with your Project. > Mark Reinhold > will get in touch with you to help you get set up. > > > cheers, > dalibor topic > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Dalibor Topic > Java F/OSS Ambassador http://openjdk.java.net > Sun Microsystems GmbH mailto:Dalibor.Topic at sun.com > Nagelsweg 55 D-20097 Hamburg Sitz der > Gesellschaft: Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten > Amtsgericht M?nchen: HRB 161028 > Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Thomas Schr?der, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland B?mer > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin H?ring > > > Tom voted on discuss@ by mistake, so effectively it was 4 out of 4. Congratulations to Roman and Mario! :) -- Andrew :-) Support Free Java! Contribute to GNU Classpath and the OpenJDK http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath http://openjdk.java.net PGP Key: 94EFD9D8 (http://subkeys.pgp.net) Fingerprint: F8EF F1EA 401E 2E60 15FA 7927 142C 2591 94EF D9D8 From springer at reservoir.com Thu May 22 15:10:43 2008 From: springer at reservoir.com (Jonathan Springer) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:10:43 -0500 Subject: Porting Hotspot to other platforms / OS'es In-Reply-To: <4835BC22.4010300@sun.com> References: <483423C5.3080109@neuweiler.biz> <4835B874.8090201@sun.com> <4835BC22.4010300@sun.com> Message-ID: <4835EF63.4030101@reservoir.com> Just a note, the REMOTE support has been used successfully in the MIPS port project (and thanks for adding that support). We use Hotspot on Linux/AMD64 as the remote JDK. The remote machine has a filesystem that is shared via NFS with the MIPS build box, so the generated bits are put in the right place for the build to pick up automatically. The one hitch we've found is that sometimes NFS lags slightly so that a newly-generated file isn't seen quickly enough remotely and the build fails. Just restarting it will get it going again though, picking up where it left off. -Jonathan Tom Rodriguez wrote: > There is some support in hotspot for rsh'ing to other machines for these > bootstrap parts. There's a variable called REMOTE that prefixes the > java dependent parts of the makefile and you should be able to use rsh > or ssh to run the needed commands on a remote machine. Obviously the > build area would need to be reachable from the remote machine and you'd > need to the execute the command in the proper build directory, so you > might need a wrapper script to do the remoting. > > tom > > Kelly O'Hair wrote: >> I see Andrew posted a reply... >> >> In general, there is a basic build dependency of building the JDK on >> having >> a previously built JDK, often called the BOOT JDK. >> >> But for hotspot (a part of the JDK), the BOOT JDK dependency is a little >> unusual. >> The hotspot repository does need to compile up some Java source for the >> Serviceability Agent, but that could be skipped if what you were after >> was >> just a libjvm.so (just the native hotspot C++ shared library), or you >> could >> compile up that java agent source on a different machine, a class file >> is a >> class file, doesn't matter who creates it. >> >> But to build libjvm.so, some of the JVM TI code (Tools Interface) needs >> to be generated, and that is done with XML/XSLT, however that generation >> should be able to be done on some other machine. >> >> I don't have any easy recipes, but I know it's possible. >> >> Maybe if you built hotspot on a known build machine, then deleted the >> .o and .so files, and tried building on the unknown machine? >> >> -kto >> >> Michael Neuweiler wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I wanted to start porting OpenJDK to Syllable on Intel32 but got >>> stuck with the chicken and egg problem of hotspot: "you need a >>> running JDK to build a new one". >>> >>> What are your recommendations to start a port? Is cross-compiling the >>> only solution or are there other ways? >>> I think I saw once that an XSLT is started with an already installed >>> JRE/JDK during the build process on my Linux machine. Is this the >>> only reason why a JRE has to be installed? >>> >>> Any help would be greatly appreciated! >>> >>> Regards, >>> Michael Neuweiler -- Jonathan Springer | Reservoir Labs, Inc. | http://www.reservoir.com/