Repository? -- How many lines of development?

Martin Buchholz martinrb at google.com
Thu Dec 15 04:25:43 UTC 2016


On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 5:05 PM, joe darcy <joe.darcy at oracle.com> wrote:

>
> The tiered testing efforts made earlier in JDK 9 [1] are necessary
> preconditions for a JDK-wide pre-push/pre-submit system. In particular, if
> you don't have a a set of meaningful tests that runs quickly enough and
> passes reliably enough then a pre-push system can cause more harm than good
> in introducing bottlenecks and causing changes to be spuriously rejected,
> say by an existing intermittent failure unrelated to the change.
>

It's a hard problem, but I think with sufficient effort presubmit can work
well.  Testing is embarrassingly parallel in principle so with enough
hardware (or one of those "clouds" everyone is selling these days) one
should be able to run arbitrarily many tests.  No one seems to deal well
with flaky tests, but flakiness can be measured, and a failing test can be
rerun arbitrarily, so deflaking should be automatable.

At Google we are starting to experiment with running jtreg tests with
massive parallelism.

Automation, presubmit testing and never-ever-broken master remain my goals
for any software project.
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