<html dir="ltr">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<style id="ms-outlook-ios-style" type="text/css">html {
background-color: transparent;
}
body {
color: #333;
line-height: 150%;
font-family: "-apple-system", "HelveticaNeue";
margin: 0;
}
.ms-outlook-ios-reference-expand {
display: block;
color: #999;
padding: 20px 0px;
text-decoration: none;
}
.ms-outlook-ios-availability-container {
max-width: 500px;
margin: auto;
padding: 12px 15px 15px 15px;
border: 1px solid #C7E0F4;
border-radius: 4px;
}
.ms-outlook-ios-availability-container > .ms-outlook-ios-availability-delete-button {
width: 25px;
height: 25px;
right: -12px;
top: -12px;
background-image: url("data:image/png;base64,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");
background-size: 25px 25px;
background-position: center;
}
#ms-outlook-ios-main-container {
margin: 0 0 0 0;
margin-top: 120;
padding: 8;
}
#ms-outlook-ios-content-container {
padding: 0;
padding-top: 12;
padding-bottom: 20;
}
.ms-outlook-ios-mention {
color: #333;
background-color: #f1f1f1;
border-radius: 4px;
padding: 0 2px 0 2px;
pointer-events: none;
text-decoration: none;
}
.ms-outlook-ios-mention-external {
color: #ba8f0d;
background-color: #fdf7e7;
}</style>
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, user-scalable=no, initial-scale=1.0">
</head>
<body style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);">
<!-- This file has been automatically generated. See web/README.md -->
<div style="direction: ltr;">
<div style="direction: ltr;">It might not apply to this specific default but in the past DSA was often chosen (over RSA) as a default as it was regarded as less suspicious to been understood as an encryption capable algorithm (as opposed to RSA). But of course
that thinking was never correct and the justification for interpreting crypto law is also gone.</div>
<div style="direction: ltr;"><br>
</div>
<div style="direction: ltr;">Not having a default is actually a good idea</div>
<div style="direction: ltr;"><br>
</div>
<div class="ms-outlook-ios-signature">
<div style="direction: ltr;">Gruss</div>
<div style="direction: ltr;">Bernd</div>
<div style="direction: ltr;">-- </div>
<div style="direction: ltr;">http://bernd.eckenfels.net</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex="-1">
<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="dir="ltr""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>Von:</b> security-dev <security-dev-bounces@openjdk.java.net> on behalf of Anthony Scarpino <anthony.scarpino@oracle.com><br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, Oktober 10, 2018 11:18 PM<br>
<b>An:</b> security-dev@openjdk.java.net<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: DSA default algorithm for keytool -genkeypair. Bad choice?
<div> </div>
</font></div>
On 10/10/2018 07:42 AM, Weijun Wang wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
>> On Oct 10, 2018, at 7:59 PM, Sean Mullan <sean.mullan@oracle.com> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> There is really no other reason other than DSA keys have been the default keypairs generated by keytool for a long time, so there are some compatibility issues we would have to think through before changing it to another algorithm such as RSA. Weijun might
have more insight into that.<br>
> <br>
> Not really. It was the default before I join Sun Microsystems many many years ago. Maybe it was a NIST standard?<br>
> <br>
> As for compatibility, as long as someone is still using DSA then they might not be specifying the -keyalg option.<br>
> <br>
> If not DSA, should RSA be the new default? Or maybe RSASSA-PSS (I wonder if RSASSA-PSS signature can always use legacy RSA keys) or EC? We don't have an option to specify ECCurve in keytool yet (a string -keysize).<br>
> <br>
> --Max<br>
> <br>
> <br>
<br>
<br>
I would rather get rid of the default completely.<br>
<br>
I realize there maybe scripting issues with that. If we made some <br>
documentation guarantees a default algorithm then maybe we are stuck <br>
with having a default and can use a security property. A part of me <br>
thinks it would be foolish for an application to assume a default <br>
algorithm and may deserve to be broken so they can fix it.<br>
<br>
Even if we didn't remove defaults from older java version, in future <br>
releases it would be nice to eliminate defaults were possible.<br>
<br>
With regard to a replacement, I'd prefer over EC than RSA given a <br>
choice. But either is ok.<br>
<br>
Tony<br>
</div>
</body>
</html>