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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/05/2021 10:08 am, Ron Pressler
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      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I wouldn’t say Java (or anything else, for that matter) is “able" to do it now, except in the sense that people (scientists) are 
able (in a billion-dollar particle accelerator) to transmute lead into gold (a few atoms). We’ve had twenty five years to convince the world this could work, the world isn’t buying, and our job isn’t to sell ideas but to serve millions of developers by giving them
what we believe they need now, not what we wished they wanted.

— Ron</pre>
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              repeat scroll 0% 0%;">We just want our software to work
              Ron, we invest years of time and effort, we just want it
              to work.  We don't want to have to test and rework it for
              every Java release, you are creating too much maintenance
              for us to keep up with.</span></span></span></span></p>
    <p>You'll be serving fewer and fewer developers as more and more are
      left behind as breakages accumulate.  I was at least keeping up
      and testing newer releases, even though we still only build on
      Java 8.<br>
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                      scroll 0% 0%;">Last I checked the stats, 58% were
                      using Java 8, 23% using Java 11 and 6% of
                      developers using 12 or newer.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
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              repeat scroll 0% 0%;">I think you'll have trouble selling
              it as you say, we won't have time to learn and implement
              new language features if we're too busy fixing breakages.</span></span></span></span></p>
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            border-box;"><span style="background: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0) none
              repeat scroll 0% 0%;">Hard life creates hard people, hard
              people create easy life, easy life creates soft people,
              soft people create hard life.</span></span></span></span></p>
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Regards,
 
Peter Firmstone
My personal opinion only.
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