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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/05/2021 10:08 am, Ron Pressler
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I wouldn’t say Java (or anything else, for that matter) is “able" to do it now, except in the sense that people (scientists) are
able (in a billion-dollar particle accelerator) to transmute lead into gold (a few atoms). We’ve had twenty five years to convince the world this could work, the world isn’t buying, and our job isn’t to sell ideas but to serve millions of developers by giving them
what we believe they need now, not what we wished they wanted.
— Ron</pre>
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<p><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1
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class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing:
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repeat scroll 0% 0%;">We just want our software to work
Ron, we invest years of time and effort, we just want it
to work. We don't want to have to test and rework it for
every Java release, you are creating too much maintenance
for us to keep up with.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p>You'll be serving fewer and fewer developers as more and more are
left behind as breakages accumulate. I was at least keeping up
and testing newer releases, even though we still only build on
Java 8.<br>
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style="background: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0) none repeat
scroll 0% 0%;">Last I checked the stats, 58% were
using Java 8, 23% using Java 11 and 6% of
developers using 12 or newer.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1
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class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing:
border-box;"><span style="background: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0) none
repeat scroll 0% 0%;">I think you'll have trouble selling
it as you say, we won't have time to learn and implement
new language features if we're too busy fixing breakages.</span></span></span></span></p>
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class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing:
border-box;"><span style="background: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0) none
repeat scroll 0% 0%;">Hard life creates hard people, hard
people create easy life, easy life creates soft people,
soft people create hard life.</span></span></span></span></p>
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Regards,
Peter Firmstone
My personal opinion only.
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