What actions are allowed in an JVMTI ResourceExhausted event handler?

Thomas Stüfe thomas.stuefe at gmail.com
Wed Nov 14 15:00:51 UTC 2018


Hi JC,

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 3:56 PM JC Beyler <jcbeyler at google.com> wrote:
>
> It seems what we do with other events that might have this type of "risk" is to defer the event to the ServiceThread, which is a Java thread, no? But perhaps for a resource exhausted just ignoring it for the compiler thread and letting another "Java thread" be aware of it and posting is a better choice?
>
> Thanks,
> Jc

in case of ResourceExhausted I think this is safe to be ignored for
the compiler thread. If the problem persists, surely a java thread
will hit it next.

...Thomas

>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 11:03 PM Thomas Stüfe <thomas.stuefe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I did open a bug to track this: https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8213834
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 7:38 AM Thomas Stüfe <thomas.stuefe at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 6:58 AM David Holmes <david.holmes at oracle.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On 14/11/2018 3:37 pm, Thomas Stüfe wrote:
>> > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 06:32 David Holmes <david.holmes at oracle.com
>> > > > <mailto:david.holmes at oracle.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >     Hi Thomas,
>> > > >
>> > > >     On 14/11/2018 6:50 am, Thomas Stüfe wrote:
>> > > >      > Hi all,
>> > > >      >
>> > > >      > We have a client using CloudFoundry and its "jvmkill" agent. That
>> > > >     is a
>> > > >      > tiny JVMTI agent (see https://github.com/cloudfoundry/jvmkill) which
>> > > >      > subscribes to the JVMTI ResourceExhausted Event. In the handler it
>> > > >      > then does call JVMTI FollowReferences() to produce a heap histogram.
>> > > >      >
>> > > >      > The thing is, at our client we seem to run out of Metaspace in a
>> > > >      > compiler thread. That thread normally would swallow the Metaspace OOM
>> > > >      > and just bailout from the compilation. But as part of the metaspace
>> > > >      > OOME handling the ResourceExhausted event gets posted, the handler
>> > > >      > then uses JVMTI FollowReferences() and attempts to print out the heap
>> > > >      > histogram, then runs into a guarantee since the compiler thread
>> > > >     cannot
>> > > >      > call java methods.
>> > > >      >
>> > > >      > My question is: are there any limitations about what one can do
>> > > >     inside
>> > > >      > a ResourceExhausted event handler?
>> > > >
>> > > >     Not specified no. But the reality of JVM TI is that you can't
>> > > >     anticipate
>> > > >     every execution context and there are times when there are implicit
>> > > >     constraints imposed by the implementation.
>> > > >
>> > > >     In this case I think we have a mismatch between the fact we post the
>> > > >     event from the compiler thread, but that a compiler thread is not a
>> > > >     true
>> > > >     "Java thread" and so can not execute arbitrary JNI or JVM TI code,
>> > > >     or in
>> > > >     particular can not lead to executing Java code. I think we should
>> > > >     not be
>> > > >     posting the event from the compiler thread in this case.
>> > > >
>> > > >     Cheers,
>> > > >     David
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi David,
>> > > >
>> > > > Yes I thought so too. I'll prepare a fix.
>> > >
>> > > My thought on the fix is that we need to check if
>> > > Thread::current()->can_call_java(). And that should probably be inside
>> > > the JvmtiExport::should_post_xxx implementation.
>> > >
>> >
>> > I wonder whether that may be too harsh. JVMTI agents may not
>> > necessarily call into java as reaction to ResourceExhausted. I would
>> > have limited this to !CompilerThread, and only in Metaspace.
>> >
>> > Also, looking at CompilerThread::can_call_java(), I see that we return
>> > true for jvmci compilers. Still do we want to post it there?
>> >
>> > But I am not sure. What do you think?
>> >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > David
>> > >
>> > > > Thanks, Thomas
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >      > I checked the
>> > > >     https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/platform/jvmti/jvmti.html
>> > > >      > documentation, but I cannot find any mentioning of limitations in
>> > > >     that
>> > > >      > case.
>> > > >      >
>> > > >      > Thanks and Best Regards, Thomas
>> > > >      >
>> > > >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
> Jc


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