RFR(S) 8021335: Missing synchronization when reading counters for live threads and peak thread count

dean.long at oracle.com dean.long at oracle.com
Tue Oct 23 18:05:00 UTC 2018


On 10/23/18 9:46 AM, dean.long at oracle.com wrote:
> On 10/22/18 3:31 PM, David Holmes wrote:
>> Sorry Dean I'm concerned about a thread termination bottleneck with 
>> this. A simple microbenchmark that creates 500,000 threads that have 
>> to run and terminate, shows a 15+% slowdown on my Linux box. I tried 
>> to find some kind of real benchmarks that covers thread termination 
>> but couldn't see anything specific.
>>
>> Can you at least run this through our performance system to see if 
>> any of the regular benchmarks are affected.
>>
>
> OK, but even if the regular benchmarks don't show a difference, I'd 
> feel better if microbenchmarks were not affected.  What if I go back 
> to the original approach and add locking:
>
>    static jlong get_live_thread_count()        { MutexLocker 
> mu(Threads_lock); return _live_threads_count->get_value() - 
> _exiting_threads_count; }
>    static jlong get_daemon_thread_count()      { MutexLocker 
> mu(Threads_lock); return _daemon_threads_count->get_value() - 
> _exiting_daemon_threads_count; }
>
> along with the other cleanups around is_daemon and is_hidden_thread?
>

Some micro-benchmarks like SecureRandomBench show a regression with 
webrev.7.  I could go back to webrev.5 and then we shouldn't need any 
locking in the get_*() functions.

dl

> dl
>
>> Thanks,
>> David
>>
>> On 20/10/2018 1:28 PM, dean.long at oracle.com wrote:
>>> On 10/18/18 6:12 PM, Mandy Chung wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/18/18 12:27 AM, David Holmes wrote:
>>>>> Hi Dean,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18/10/2018 2:06 PM, dean.long at oracle.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're right, I missed that.  I think the right thing to do is 
>>>>>> call current_thread_exiting while holding the Threads_lock.
>>>>>> Then we can get rid of the parallel atomic counters. So, here's 
>>>>>> one more try:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~dlong/8021335/webrev.7/
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay that is the simple and obvious solution that doesn't require 
>>>>> split counts. So I have to ask Mandy if she recalls why this 
>>>>> approach wasn't taken 15 years ago when the exit counts were added 
>>>>> as part of:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It has been so long.  I think it's likely an oversight.
>>>>> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-4530538 ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Does taking the Threads_lock here cost too much and cause a thread 
>>>>> termination bottleneck?
>>>>
>>>> If the contention on Threads_lock is not high (that seems to me), 
>>>> it should be okay.   I'm not close to the VM implementation (lot of 
>>>> changes since then) and I don't have a definitive answer unless I 
>>>> study the code closely.   You and others have a better judgement on 
>>>> this.
>>>>
>>>> AFAICT the change is okay.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Mandy.  David, OK to push?
>>>
>>> dl
>>>
>>>> Mandy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>



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