RFC: 8229160: Reimplement JvmtiRawMonitor to use PlatformMonitor

David Holmes david.holmes at oracle.com
Mon Aug 26 22:21:27 UTC 2019


On 26/08/2019 6:25 pm, serguei.spitsyn at oracle.com wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> 
> On 8/20/19 22:21, David Holmes wrote:
>> Hi Serguei,
>>
>> On 21/08/2019 9:58 am, serguei.spitsyn at oracle.com wrote:
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> The whole approach looks good to me.
>>
>> Thanks for taking a look. My main concern is about the interrupt 
>> semantics, so I really need to get some end-user feedback on that 
>> aspect as well.
> 
> 
> I don't have any opinion yet on what interrupt semantics tool developers 
> really need.
> Yes, we may need to request some feedback.

I've now explicitly added JC, Yasumasa, Severin and Martin, to this 
email thread to try and solicit feedback from all the major players that 
seem interested in this serviceability area. Folks I'd really appreciate 
any feedback you may have here on the usecases for JvmtiRawMonitors, and 
in particular the use RawMonitorWait and its interaction with 
Thread.interrupt.

> My gut feeling tells me it is not good to break the original semantics. :)
> But let me think about it a little bit more.

Me too, but I wanted to start simple. I suspect I will have to at least 
implement time-based polling of the interrupt state.

> Also, we need to file a CSR for this.

Depending on how this proceeds, yes.

> 
>>> + if (jSelf != NULL) {
>>> + if (interruptible && Thread::is_interrupted(jSelf, true)) {
>>> + // We're now interrupted but we may have consumed a notification.
>>> + // To avoid lost wakeups we have to re-issue that notification, which
>>> + // may result in a spurious wakeup for another thread. 
>>> Alternatively we
>>> + // ignore checking for interruption before returning.
>>> + notify();
>>> + return false; // interrupted
>>> + }
>>>
>>> I'm a bit concerned about introduction of new spurious wake ups above.
>>> Some tests can be not defensive against it, so we may discover new 
>>> intermittent failures.
>>
>> That is possible. Though given spurious wakeups are already possible 
>> any test that is incorrectly using RawMonitorWait() without checking a 
>> condition, is technically already broken.
> 
> Agreed.
> I even think it is even better if spurious wakeups will happen more 
> frequently.
> It should help to identify and fix such spots in the test base.

Yes it is good tests. Alas not so good for production code :)

>>
>> Not checking for interruption after the wait will also require some 
>> test changes, and it weakens the interrupt semantics even further.
> 
> I'm thinking about a small investigation on how this is used in our tests.

There seem to be a few uses that are susceptible to spurious wakeup 
errors, but those tests don't use interrupt.

Thanks,
David

> Thanks,
> Serguei
> 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David
>> -----
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Serguei
>>>
>>> On 8/14/19 11:22 PM, David Holmes wrote:
>>>> Bug: https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8229160
>>>>
>>>> Preliminary webrev (still has rough edges): 
>>>> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~dholmes/8229160/webrev.prelim/
>>>>
>>>> Background:
>>>>
>>>> We've had this comment for a long time:
>>>>
>>>>  // The raw monitor subsystem is entirely distinct from normal
>>>>  // java-synchronization or jni-synchronization.  raw monitors are not
>>>>  // associated with objects.  They can be implemented in any manner
>>>>  // that makes sense.  The original implementors decided to piggy-back
>>>>  // the raw-monitor implementation on the existing Java 
>>>> objectMonitor mechanism.
>>>>  // This flaw needs to fixed.  We should reimplement raw monitors as 
>>>> sui-generis.
>>>>  // Specifically, we should not implement raw monitors via java 
>>>> monitors.
>>>>  // Time permitting, we should disentangle and deconvolve the two 
>>>> implementations
>>>>  // and move the resulting raw monitor implementation over to the 
>>>> JVMTI directories.
>>>>  // Ideally, the raw monitor implementation would be built on top of
>>>>  // park-unpark and nothing else.
>>>>
>>>> This is an attempt to do that disentangling so that we can then 
>>>> consider changes to ObjectMonitor without having to worry about 
>>>> JvmtiRawMonitors. But rather than building on low-level park/unpark 
>>>> (which would require the same manual queue management and much of 
>>>> the same complex code as exists in ObjectMonitor) I decided to try 
>>>> and do this on top of PlatformMonitor.
>>>>
>>>> The reason this is just a RFC rather than RFR is that I overlooked a 
>>>> non-trivial aspect of JvmtiRawMonitors: like Java monitors (as 
>>>> implemented by ObjectMonitor) they interact with the 
>>>> Thread.interrupt mechanism. This is not clearly stated in the JVM TI 
>>>> specification [1] but only in passing by the possible errors for 
>>>> RawMonitorWait:
>>>>
>>>> JVMTI_ERROR_INTERRUPT    Wait was interrupted, try again
>>>>
>>>> As I explain in the bug report there is no way to build in proper 
>>>> interrupt support using PlatformMonitor as there is no way we can 
>>>> "interrupt" the low-level pthread_cond_wait. But we can approximate 
>>>> it. What I've done in this preliminary version is just check 
>>>> interrupt state before and after the actual "wait" but we won't get 
>>>> woken by the interrupt once we have actually blocked. Alternatively 
>>>> we could use a periodic polling approach and wakeup every Nms to 
>>>> check for interruption.
>>>>
>>>> The only use of JvmtiRawMonitors in the JDK libraries (JDWP) is not 
>>>> affected by this choice as that code ignores the interrupt until the 
>>>> real action it was waiting for has occurred. The interrupt is then 
>>>> reposted later.
>>>>
>>>> But more generally there could be users of JvmtiRawMonitors that 
>>>> expect/require that RawMonitorWait is responsive to Thread.interrupt 
>>>> in a manner similar to Object.wait. And if any of them are reading 
>>>> this then I'd like to know - hence this RFC :)
>>>>
>>>> FYI testing to date:
>>>>  - tiers 1 -3 all platforms
>>>>  - hotspot: serviceability/jvmti
>>>>                           /jdwp
>>>>             vmTestbase/nsk/jvmti
>>>>                           /jdwp
>>>>  - JDK: com/sun/jdi
>>>>
>>>> Comments/opinions appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> [1] 
>>>> https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/11/docs/specs/jvmti.html#RawMonitorWait 
>>>>
>>>
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