RFR: 8369186: HotSpot Style Guide should permit some uses of the C++ Standard Library [v2]
Kim Barrett
kbarrett at openjdk.org
Sat Nov 1 07:34:03 UTC 2025
On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 08:24:41 GMT, Florian Weimer <fweimer at openjdk.org> wrote:
>> We (you and me, @fweimer-rh) discussed this a couple of years ago:
>> https://mail.openjdk.org/pipermail/hotspot-dev/2023-December/082324.html
>>
>> Quoting from here:
>> https://mail.openjdk.org/pipermail/hotspot-dev/2023-December/083142.html
>>
>> "
>> Empirically, a recursive initialization attempt doesn't make any attempt to
>> throw. Rather, it blocks forever waiting for a futex signal from a thread that
>> succeeds in the initialization. Which of course will never come.
>>
>> And that makes sense, now that I've looked at the code.
>>
>> In __cxa_guard_acquire, with _GLIBCXX_USE_FUTEX, if the guard indicates
>> initialization hasn't yet been completed, then it goes into a while loop.
>> This while loop tries to claim initialization. Failing that, it checks
>> whether initialization is complete. Failing that, it does a SYS_futex
>> syscall, waiting for some other thread to perform the initialization. There's
>> nothing there to check for recursion.
>>
>> throw_recursive_init_exception is only called if single-threaded (either by
>> configuration or at runtime).
>> "
>>
>> It doesn't look like there have been any relevant changes in that area since
>> then. So I think there is still not a problem here.
>
> @kimbarrett Sorry, I forgot about the old thread. You can get the exception in a single-threaded scenario, something like this:
>
>
> struct S {
> S() {
> static S s;
> *this = s;
> }
> } global;
>
>
> Maybe the actual rule is more like this?
>
>> Functions that may throw exceptions must not be used, unless individual calls ensure that these particular invocations cannot throw exceptions.
Recursively entering a block-scoped static is undefined behavior. That some
configurations of glibc might throw an exception in that situation (even
despite the caller being compiled with exceptions disabled) seems like a
mistake in glibc, and not really our concern. Our code should avoid such a
situation because it's UB, regardless of whether the actual behavior involves
exceptions or nasal demons.
The exception only gets thrown when the application is single-threaded. But at
least the common way to start java (via the launcher) is already
multi-threaded on entry to Threads::create_vm(). So that case doesn't normally
apply to us anyway.
Also, I really don't think we want people trying to figure out whether a
particular call might or might not throw (neither when writing nor when
reading code).
So no, I don't think the proposed rule should be changed.
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PR Review Comment: https://git.openjdk.org/jdk/pull/27601#discussion_r2483178071
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