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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Right, the existing Deprecated tag had me thinking this was a Java SE interface that had begun the deprecation process.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">But it's not a published API.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Maybe we can go further: HotspotCompilationMBean and HotspotInternalMBean look unused. They are not exposed in the standard PlatformMBeanServer.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">While looking for who/what uses these, I also found a recent mailing list thread:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">"Question on why sun.management MBeans are not exported?"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">https://www.mail-archive.com/core-libs-dev@openjdk.org/msg19878.html<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">..where the idea of removal also came up.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Kevin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Eirik Bjørsnøs <eirbjo@gmail.com>
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<b>Sent:</b> 17 March 2024 18:43<br>
<b>To:</b> Kevin Walls <kevin.walls@oracle.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> serviceability-dev@openjdk.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [External] : Re: RFD: Can we remove per-thread compiler stats now?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 7:54 PM Kevin Walls <<a href="mailto:kevin.walls@oracle.com" target="_blank">kevin.walls@oracle.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="https://openjdk.org/jeps/277" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">https://openjdk.org/jeps/277</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">"An API element should not be removed from the Java SE specification unless it has been delivered with
an annotation of @Deprecated(forRemoval=true) in a previous version of Java SE."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">So deprecations need to be "upgraded" to forRemoval, this will take a few updates to get them removed.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hmm.. But if sun.management.HotspotCompilationMBean is an internal class, it's not defined in the Java SE Specification, right? My understanding when working on similar core-libs cleanups is that internal APIs can be removed directly without
the need for a forRemoval step. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">HotspotCompilationMBean:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">@Deprecated</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">public java.util.List<CompilerThreadStat> getCompilerThreadStats();</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">.. need to consider whether a method is removed or just "degraded" (not return any information, or
throw).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think this is already "degraded" in the sense that it does not return useful information (underlying counters are long removed). My intention here is to remove crufty leftover code. I think the best outcome is if we can remove the code
so maintainers no longer need to see or reason about it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">That said, I see sun.management.CompilationImpl[java.lang:type=Compilation] ..rather than HotspotCompilation.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">ManagementFactoryHelper.java: getCompilationMXBean() specifically creates a CompilationImpl, users
don’t normally see the HotspotCompilation mbean.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This and the rest goes into code and concepts I'm not very familiar with (yet!), so I'm not sure I understand the implications well. But do you think perhaps the whole HotspotCompilationMBean with implementation could be removed? I'm not
sure I see any consumers within OpenJDK of this interface? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The role of HotspotCompilationMBean needs more investigation, but basically yes to the idea. 8-)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good! It seems there is potential for some level of cleanup here, so I'll go ahead and make a PR where we can continue the discussion.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Eirik.<o:p></o:p></p>
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