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<p>Hi Sergey, <br>
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<p>Why do we omitting closing th tag? <br>
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<p>e.g. <br>
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<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
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<pre><span class="new">+ * <caption>Metal's system color mapping</caption></span>
<span class="new">+ * <thead></span>
<span class="new">+ * <tr></span>
<span class="new">+ * <th>Key</span>
<span class="new">+ * <th>Value</span>
<span class="new">+ * </thead></span></pre>
<p>I know that HTML parsers are usually forgiving such things. But
sometimes it may make thing worse:<br>
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<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7125354/what-are-the-actual-problems-of-not-closing-tags-and-attributes-in-html/7135378#7135378">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7125354/what-are-the-actual-problems-of-not-closing-tags-and-attributes-in-html/7135378#7135378</a></p>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Thanks,
Alexander.</pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/06/2017 06:23, Sergey Bylokhov
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:4f6a1420-831d-4b6c-946c-05e770cb2f14@default"
type="cite">
<pre wrap="">If there are no objections I'll change the target ws from dev to client, to minimize the merges between some other javadoc fixes.
----- <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:sergey.bylokhov@oracle.com">sergey.bylokhov@oracle.com</a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hello.
Here is an updated version where most of the caption are visible.
Bug: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8180326">https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8180326</a>
Webrev can be found at:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~serb/8180326/webrev.02/">http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~serb/8180326/webrev.02/</a>
Specdiff:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~serb/8180326/specdiff.02/overview-summary.html">http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~serb/8180326/specdiff.02/overview-summary.html</a>
You can use search to check the changes in some specific class:
Old docs:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~serb/8180326/api_old.02/overview-summary.html">http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~serb/8180326/api_old.02/overview-summary.html</a>
New docs:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~serb/8180326/api.02/overview-summary.html">http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~serb/8180326/api.02/overview-summary.html</a>
----- <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jonathan.gibbons@oracle.com">jonathan.gibbons@oracle.com</a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Phil,
I have no evidence one way or the other whether screen readers pay
attention
to undisplayed or invisible captions. It seemed safest to assume
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<pre wrap="">that
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they would
read a visible caption, and that we should head in that general
direction.
-- Jon
On 05/17/2017 11:58 AM, Phil Race wrote:
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<pre wrap="">And PS I was not saying anything to contradict
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<pre wrap="">tables should not have a summary attribute and should have a
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However that the docs I read on the web did seem to imply that
summary was very much intended for ATs but it was not at all
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<pre wrap="">clear
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<pre wrap="">is the point of caption. I'm sure they can read it, but I don't
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<pre wrap="">get
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it visible matters to them so how it making it visible relates to
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<pre wrap="">accessibility
requirements is not an obvious connection to me. So why do we
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<pre wrap="">to make it visible for ATs ?
-phil.
On 05/17/2017 11:54 AM, Phil Race wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I will leave the decision on whether to do that now up to Sergey
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<pre wrap="">although
it seems all he has to do here is remove "invisible".
Many of the "summary" ones had wrong or misleading text but they
seem to have been all fixed.
I'd want to see what the new HTML looks like with a visible
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<pre wrap="">course ..
-phil.
On 05/17/2017 11:52 AM, Jonathan Gibbons wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Phil,
The bottom line is that in the JDK docs, tables should not have
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<pre wrap="">summary attribute and should have a caption. This comes down to
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<pre wrap="">accessibility requirements, where we are slowly raising the bar
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<pre wrap="">our docs, to be in accordance with Oracle's guidelines.
Hiding the caption (style="display:none") is an interim measure
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<pre wrap="">appropriate caption that should be displayed. In time, we should
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<pre wrap="">locate and update all table captions (in our standard docs
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<pre wrap="">and visible. If you guys want to do that as part of this
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<pre wrap="">update,
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<pre wrap="">ahead. FWIW, that is what we did for the java.xml module in the
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<pre wrap="">repo ... pretty much all tables there now have a reasonable,
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<pre wrap="">caption.
-- Jon
On 05/17/2017 11:19 AM, Phil Race wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I am not sure we are using the summary in a way that makes it
worthwhile.
As you noted in the other mail
"The summary attribute was used to give a more descriptive
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<pre wrap="">value
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<pre wrap="">of the contents of the table. A caption is more like a
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The values I see are more like a title and as you say that is
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<pre wrap="">the idea. See the example here
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/H73.html">https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/H73.html</a>
Caption sounds like a title so it might actually be more
appropriate than summary
for the text we have except that its not clear why we'd want
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<pre wrap="">be visible when we were fine without.
But being there and invisible may be pointless unless screen
readers look for it even if invisible.
But if its not doing any harm I guess we can leave it as
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I still need to look at the rest of the changes.
-phil.
On 05/12/2017 05:11 PM, Jonathan Gibbons wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Sergey,
FWIW, the invisible caption should be regarded as a temporary
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The general guideline in this conversion work has been to
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<pre wrap="">changing the visible text of the specification, and captions
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-- Jon
On 05/12/2017 05:00 PM, Sergey Bylokhov wrote:
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<pre wrap="">The "summary" is unsupported by the HTML5 and we replace it
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These new styles are located in the stylesheet.css in the
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<pre wrap="">by others as well.
They were added by this fix:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8179479">https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8179479</a>
----- <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:philip.race@oracle.com">philip.race@oracle.com</a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Does this in any way match the rest of the docs ? Or is
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<pre wrap="">left
to
style things how they want.
I thought (?) maybe there is to be some javadoc tool
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<pre wrap="">CSS
styles.
Also why are all the table summaries removed ?
-phil.
On 5/12/17, 4:52 PM, Sergey Bylokhov wrote:
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<pre wrap="">This is because I use the same style for most of the
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<pre wrap="">'class="striped"', which apply the same/unified style for
all(most) of
our tables.
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<pre wrap="">Also this is because I removed 'inlined' styles, like
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<pre wrap="">Adding 2d-dev because a number of the files are 2D.
What is the general reason for changing the appearance of
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On 5/12/17, 4:25 PM, Sergey Bylokhov wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hello,
Please review the fix for jdk9-dev.
This fix is a part of the effort to make all javadoc in
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